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Author: Rusty
Date: 2009-08-24 06:19
The word seems to be don`t leave your wet pull thru`in your clarinet case. But why? Sure it may be still moist and ineffective for the next pull thru` but you can easily use another one.
Cracking results from the outer wood`s surface drying and shrinking, so would not the moisture of the cloth effectively replace the orange peels, the humidifiers and moist cotton wools in vented pill bottles?
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Author: huff n' puff
Date: 2009-08-24 09:11
Hi, Rusty....... as an unrepentant non-conformist can I also point out that a slightly damp cloth is way better than a dry one for trapping water. My plastic B12 has never dried out and cracked. As long as the pull through is washed regularly, I dont have any visible mould problems or smells.
Bash on regardless.......... H. n' P.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-08-24 09:57
Where else can you put a damp pullthrough apart from in the case compartment? I've never seen anyone walking around airing their pullthrough after playing.
I usually roll them up and store them in the bell, and that keeps the humidity levels up - especially in the winter. I've never had any problems with mould either.
Don't use padsavers on wooden clarinets!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2009-08-24 10:00
"so would not the moisture of the cloth effectively replace the orange peels, the humidifiers and moist cotton wools in vented pill bottles?"
To an extent, but the bottles hold more water than a swab can. For people in some areas, there can be problems with mold and odor.
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Author: justme
Date: 2009-08-24 10:54
skygardener said: " so would not the moisture of the cloth effectively replace the orange peels, the humidifiers and moist cotton wools in vented pill bottles?"
To an extent, but the bottles hold more water than a swab can. For people in some areas, there can be problems with mold and odor."
Ahhh, I just love rubber ( Ridenour Lyrique RCP-576bc ) and good plastic clarinets... ![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2009-08-24 13:11
I've been playing professionally for almost 50 years now and I always leave my swab in my case as does everyone I've ever played with. I don't remember anyone ever carrying their swab seperately and I've never even heard of doing that. I do have a hanky covering my clarinets so there is no direct contact with the keys. In my bass case I just keep it in one of the compartments.
ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
Post Edited (2009-08-25 15:08)
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Author: William
Date: 2009-08-24 14:39
For almost as many years as Ed P, I have placed an old calander towel in my clarinet case covering the keywork and stored the used swab, kind of spread out, on top of that. The towel prevents any contact with the silver plateing and allows the swab to dry evenly for next use. In my bass case, I use a larger kitchen type towel. I have been doing this for years with no problems--no cracks with any of my 12+ wood clarinets nor tarnishing of keys. And no odors, mold, mildew--nothing yukky (I do regularily wash or replace my swabs)
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-08-24 15:09
Well, despite the good results reported by two Pros I still have my reservations. Putting a wet used swab in one's clarinet case reminds me too much of stuffing ones sweaty jockey shorts in the clean underwear drawer. Outer pockets of the newer soft cases were made for both purposes.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2009-08-24 19:39
Flute players do not typically leave their swab/hankie in the case, and my suspicion is that they do this so that the extra pressure from the cloth won't press the keys and bend them slightly out of adjustment.
I've never had a problem leaving my clarinet swab in the case...
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-08-25 12:13
A thought: I've been around long enough to remember that "swab" used to refer to the "rattail" thing with the twisted wire in it. Today....I guess....it still means that to some while others think it means "hankie". Maybe it's time to call a hankie a hankie when that's what we're referring to. The term "swab" originated from
Navy lingo such as "Swab the decks" where the article used was a "mop" and the rattail thing got it's name from that because it resembled a "mop". And....a "mop" was what Mom used to use to clean the kitchen floor.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2009-08-25 15:13
Well Bob, all I can say about your reservations is that my swab never gets "wet" though it might be slightly damp after swabing. I've never notice it damp when I take it out of the case. I've never noticed ever the slightest odor to my swab or in my case so I just have never had a problem. ESP
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-08-25 15:55
I'm not doubting your experience,Ed, but my reservations are that everyone might not have similar results. Experience is the only teacher.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2009-08-25 18:58
Bob, of course you're right about experience being the best teacher but you started your post by stating "The word seems to be don`t leave your wet pull thru`in your clarinet case." Well I don't know who it is that says that, maybe in certain climates but I've had hundreds of students over the years and have played with dozens of professionals and I've not only never heard of it being a problem but have never noticed any clarinet player doing anything different. So if you keep your swab in your case and it's a problem for you then I guess you should not do it. Otherwise just don't it if you think it's a problem, no big deal. ESP
A man went to his doctor complaining that his arm hurt when he twisted it a certain way. After the doctor examined him he said, don't twist your arm that way any more. I think you get my point.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
Post Edited (2009-08-26 15:08)
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-08-26 15:24
Sorry Ed, but I didn't start the post, Rusty did. I got the point but it was on the wrong end of the stick.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Rusty
Date: 2009-08-27 01:51
Yes I admit to the posting of this wet (swab) pullthru` Seems like I`m a minority of 1 in a "Googolplex" of clarinet players.
I queried doing this only because all the clarinet players in our band don`t put the wet swabs away moist. Not a large statistical body tho`.
There are only3 of us!
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2009-08-27 18:47
Rusty, you can make that 4.
I never put a wet pull through in my case, I can't possibly imagine it doing any good (and we don't have a low humidity problem in the UK).
Also I never find there is enough room in the case for all the "bits" I want to carry so my pull thru, specs, reed water container, misc tools etc all are carried in a small pouch case outside the main case.
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Author: marcia
Date: 2009-08-27 21:26
"all the clarinet players in our band don`t put the wet swabs away moist."
Neither did the other clarinet players in my "former" concert band. That's because none of them ever used it in the first place! I was always the last one ready to leave. But I digress. I have always put my used swab back in the case with no adverse consequences. It's dry for the next use, has never been mouldy or smelly, does get washed occasionally.
Marcia
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Author: Rusty
Date: 2009-08-27 21:41
Norman OK. 4. I agree on the high humidity in UK, when is it going to stop raining so we can win back the ashes?
What`s with the water bottle, do you soak your reeds for awhile prior to using instead of the mouth wet?
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2009-08-27 22:23
Rusty, lets burn a few clarinets and play for their ashes!!
Yes I use a water soak rather than mouth for initial wetting, picked this up years back from our double reed friends (I know that they have unique problem in getting their reeds wet due to lack of access to inside of reeds) but I believe that saliva has a detrimental effect on the cane and my reeds seem to last longer this way.
I also see many players just lick the reed and put it on which does not in my view establish the correct initial humidity in the reed.
I can imagine this is a contentious issue but I do what I think works best for me.
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