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Author: Niksko
Date: 2009-08-22 07:50
Hi
I was wondering if anybody could help me out with some fingerings for some awkward tremolos that are in a piece I'm playing with our school orchestra.
They are (as they appear for me, not in concert pitch):
B4-G4
Ab4-Eb4
Thanks
-Nik
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Author: vjoet
Date: 2009-08-22 14:37
For the B4-G4,
I'd finger G as usual + the third tone hole covered
For the B, finger the usual Bb + 3rd trill key + third tone hole covered
For the Ab4-Eb4
Leave the lowest trill key depressed as you finger Ab, Eb
Others will undoubtedly have other suggestion.
I just had a doosie, A#4 to C#5. With director's OK, I lowered it an octave.
Vann Joe (amateur)
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Author: mrn
Date: 2009-08-22 14:42
For the Ab4-Eb4, the best I can think of is to use these fingerings:
For Eb4:
T x o o | x o o
For Ab4:
Ab o o o | x o o
I've never had to use this fingering combination for a bona fide tremolo but it does work very well in rapid passages.
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2009-08-22 15:38
I relied on mrn's Eb4 fingering for years and years:
Tx00|x00, until someone TOLD me that it is terribly out of tune.
Still, there are times when it is the only game in town.
I wonder WHY is is such a loser when
TRx00|x00, TRx00|0x), TRx00|00X are all perfectly good for Bb5.
Seems like these should be a (perhaps rough) 12th apart.
Bob Phillips
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Author: idahofats
Date: 2009-08-22 19:37
Another pair of alternatives to the above:
If you prefer, rest your bell on one knee for stability, and if a little flatness or stuffiness are not a problem at high speed, then the G4-B4 tremolo can be played as follows: for G4, keep fingers 3, 4, 5 and 6 + Righthand B down [00X|XXX+B], then simply pincer TRXX repeatedly to reach B4 as TRXXX|XXX+B (taking care not to glance off the A key as you tremolo.)
For Eb4-Ab4, finger Eb with the sliver key [TRXX/0|000], then trill using the side of the right index finger on the No. 3 trill key...the second from the top of the cluster. At low volume, the Ab produced can be stuffy and weak, but at high volume and with an open throat, it's tolerable---and very easy to flutter/machine-gun.
By the bye, while tinkering with this, I found that a nice Eb4-F4 trill can be made by playing sliver-key Eb, then reaching the tip of the right hand index finger around to trill only the tip of the No. 2 trill key (the key which normally acts in unison with No. 1 in producing chromatic F#.) This trill is easier to co-ordinate smoothly and sounds less stuffy to me than going from 1+1 Eb to F......YMMV
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Author: GBK
Date: 2009-08-22 20:13
B4 to G4:
Play G open, and tremolo to B4 with right side (top) trill keys 3&4.
Eb4 to Ab4:
Play Eb4 using the chromatic sliver key fingering and tremolo to Ab4 using right side top trill key #3.
Another choice, if you have time, and which gives a perfect Ab4 to Eb4 tremolo, is to play Eb4 with the chromatic sliver key fingering, rest the clarinet on your knee, and use your right hand to open the throat A key.
...GBK
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Author: Niksko
Date: 2009-08-23 03:25
Thanks so much for the great response!
I think I'm going to go with:
o o x | x x x B to RT x x x | x x x B for the G to B and
T x x / o | o o o to T x x / o | o o o with the third right side trill key for the A to Eb
as these seem to be the easiest for me to play and seem to be reasonably well in tune.
Thanks again
-Nik
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2009-08-23 13:38
Check out my website, the clarinet fingering chart and trills and tremolos page. I might have something there that helps but some of the above suggestions are good too. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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