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Author: winders
Date: 2009-08-20 17:04
I want to purchase a new clarinet barrel and I confused with so many brands out there.
Like:
-Backun
-Fobes
-Pyne
-Buffet Chadash
-Buffet Muncy
-Buffet Moennig
-Allan Segal Barrel
-Ridenour
-Gao Barrel, etc.
Any review about those clarinet barrel with its type?
How if those barrel are compared each other?
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-08-20 17:17
Check out Tom Ridenour's You Tube videos on the differences between diferent barrels and their construction, as well as materials. Some nfo there you might be able to use. Go to youtube.com and search billyboy647.
I ahve heard good things about most of the makers you listed in your post above. Only you can decide if a particular barrel gives you the results you want with your clarinet.
Given that, I have had dealings with Morrie Backun, Tom Ridenour and Allan Segal. All three are very good to work with.
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
Post Edited (2009-08-20 17:19)
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2009-08-20 17:18
winders wrote:
> I want to purchase a new clarinet barrel and I confused with so
> many brands out there.
The unfortunate part - some will work great on your setup (tuning, sound); some won't. Some of those that work great will cost a small fortune.
The fortunate part - some will work great on your setup (tuning, sound); some won't. Some of those that work great won't cost a small fortune.
But you gotta try them ...
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Author: GBK
Date: 2009-08-20 17:19
For the seemingly 1000th time -
The ONLY way to know what YOU prefer is to order a few samples of each and try it for YOURSELF.
Someone else's experience, preference, review, opinion, etc... are merely just that -
Someone else's, (and will probably not be yours.)
Remember - since all the barrels you mentioned are played by numerous players, somewhere -
Then......someone must like them.
That is the reason that other's opinion should not be given much weight in your decision.
Do your own testing.
...GBK
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Author: winders
Date: 2009-08-20 17:26
the problem is in Indonesia, those brand are not sell in here, so I can't try.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2009-08-20 18:15
Dimu, you have to figure out your budget - do you have $200+ to spend, or are you more in the $100-150 range? (or $60-$100, etc).
Also, considering where you live for the humidity level, etc you may want something synthetic so as not to change as much with the moisture.
Just a thought.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2009-08-20 19:13
I agree with some others. I'm going to sound like a broken record again but everyone that likes the barrel that they use thinks it's the best one, it's not. It's only the best one for them. Try as many as you can, that's the only way to see what is best for you. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2009-08-20 19:56
You should probably plan on trying about 25 different barrels before settling on ONE. That is difficult because you'll have about $5,000 US worth of merchandise at hand while you make a decision.
Alternatively, you can try fiddling with the paltry 3-at-a-time testing that most vendors are willing to support. You will have to be willing to send all three back. But, to do a thorough job of comparing, you'll probably have to buy a couple on the way that will become losers when you finally find that miracle barrel. You'll end up trying to sell them off.
And, Ridenour suggests that you need to test each barrel in four different rotational orientations --making for about 100 (disciplined) trials.
And get some helpful, skilled listeners to help you judge the sound. You can judge intonation and responsiveness on your own, but you can not hear what you sound like.
OH, and test the final candidates in a large space (with remote listeners).
Bob Phillips
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Author: srattle
Date: 2009-08-20 20:00
I'm very confused.
People on here keep saying that each piece of equipment is personal, and you'll have to try them out to see if you like them or not.
This seems pretty obvious. It's like saying there is no best car, you'll just have to try it out. It doesn't mean that each company, or piece doesn't have certain tendencies.
I would imagine Winders, like many of the other people posting questions like this, are asking for any information that can be given, to help them cut down the options a little bit.
Not necessarily 'tell me what is the best barrel'
Forinstance, I could say that I find chadash barrels a little more focused than Moennig, but moennig seems to have a rounder, bigger sound than chadash.
I can also say that Backun barrels tend to be darker, and move covered, making a lot of leaps, and crossings easier, but they lose some of the ring in the sound, and also lose some projection.
These are, of course, my opinions, but they are tools that someone can use to help decide.
Do I want to buy something that will make my sound darker? If no, then maybe Backun is not the right answer, and he/she's saved time and money.
For instance, I would be very interested to find out what some of the people here think about the Gao barrels and bells. I have no knowledge of them, and it is not easy to order a whole bunch of them to Germany having no idea if they are even something interesting or not.
I am a little nervous to ask, however, since I fear I will get 10 replies telling me that everyone has his/her own taste, and no one could, or should tell me anything......
Maybe we can all make it clear that equipment is a very personal thing, but we can also give our opinions to help people who maybe can't just order 50 barrels to try, and spend $1000 on shipping to indonesia, or Germany, or ever another state
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Author: reedwizard
Date: 2009-08-20 20:15
Since you live so far removed from so many of the makers of the barrels I would try and find other clarinetists that may have one or more of the barrels or a music store that may have at least one or two and try those. If you are not in a music program already I would contact the nearest one and ask to talk to the clarinet instructor maybe they can help you locate sources for some of the barrels so you can try them. If you like them then you can consider ordering some more to try or purchasing one.
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Author: mrn
Date: 2009-08-20 20:25
Sacha wrote:
<<I would imagine Winders, like many of the other people posting questions like this, are asking for any information that can be given, to help them cut down the options a little bit.
Not necessarily 'tell me what is the best barrel'>>
That's a very good point. At the very least, it's nice to have some idea of what to try first.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-08-20 22:54
mrn wrote:
> At the very least, it's nice to have some idea of what to try first.
At the very least, it would nice to know what the original poster would like to achieve with a new barrel. Improve intonation? Improve tone? Burn money?
--
Ben
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Author: mrn
Date: 2009-08-21 00:03
tictactux wrote:
> At the very least, it would nice to know what the original
> poster would like to achieve with a new barrel. Improve
> intonation? Improve tone? Burn money?
Yes, that would be good to know, wouldn't it?
(FWIW, I am happy sticking with the stock Buffet barrels that came with my instruments.)
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2009-08-21 05:04
>> Burn money? <<
Obviously he doesn't want to burn money. If he did he wouldn't use it to buy a barrel. But maybe he wants to burn a barrel, so in that case, a wood one is better.
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