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Author: Malcolm
Date: 2009-07-12 01:48
Self taught newbie - why did my clarinet come with two barrels. One is shapped a little different, however, there are no identifying marks on either of them.
Malcolm
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-07-12 01:53
Different tuning or sound characteristics, based on length, the shape of the bore, etc. What clarinet do you have?
Jeff
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Author: Malcolm
Date: 2009-07-12 02:10
Orpheo, no idea of the model. No manual, instructions, etc. came with it. Saw it on Amazon.com at a price I could not turn down.
Just checked Orpheo's Webb page and I'm sure I have their student model.
Malcolm
Post Edited (2009-07-12 02:23)
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-07-12 20:44
Well, if nothing else, here's the contact info from their website:
Orpheus Musical Instruments • 325 Nolan Street • San Antonio, Texas 78202
(210) 637-0414 • (888) 368-7770 •
You could call and discuss it with thewm. According to their website, the "pro" model comes with two barrels. It lists for $1300. The student model lists for $700, and has one barrel.
Looking at the Amazon site, it's hard to tell. Did you get the $49 special? Might be one of what we refer to around here as CSOs.
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
Post Edited (2009-07-12 20:48)
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Author: Malcolm
Date: 2009-07-12 21:48
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Looking at the Amazon site, it's hard to tell. Did you get the $49 special? Might be one of what we refer to around here as CSOs.
$59 and what is a CSO?
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2009-07-12 22:31
"Well, if nothing else, here's the contact info from their website:
Orpheus Musical Instruments"
This does seem to be a CSO [Clarinet Shaped Object]. That is a very low price for a new instrument.
As for your original question-
The barrels should be slightly different lengths. This is for tuning purposes. The shorter barrel will give you a higher pitch than the longer one.
I wonder why there would be two barrels on such an inexpensive instrument.
Post Edited (2009-07-15 15:04)
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-07-12 23:08
Agreed. Normally, a student model would come with one, slightly short barrel, so as to keep beginners from playing too far below standard pitches.
Jeff
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-07-13 05:49
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I wonder why there would be two barrels on such an inexpensive instrument.
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Agreed. Normally, a student model would come with one, slightly short barrel, so as to keep beginners from playing too far below standard pitches.
It is cheaper to throw in two barrels for two different markets (A=440 and A=442) than having two different and distinct packages of which one is always in shortage.
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Ben
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Author: Mike Clarinet
Date: 2009-07-13 12:20
A CSO is a Clarinet Shaped Object. It refers to a very cheap and badly made instrument with sub-standard metalwork and intonation, that is virtually impossible to play. They are aimed at the beginner market, and are bought by unsuspecting beginners or parents, who think they have a bargain. There have been several threads on this board listing the suspect manufacturers.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-07-14 11:30
But.....it's the Pro model and from Texas....and we haven't even evaluated it personally. I think Ben's got the answer, tho. The longer barrel is for playing Orpheus in the Undereworld.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2009-07-14 12:50
BobD stated that the longer barrel is for "playing Orpheus in the Undereworld."
Following that logic, the shorter one is for playing in Heaven, and since
"In Heaven there is no beer ( thats why we drink it here)" the shorter one must be for playing:
Roll out the.......barrel
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-07-14 13:55
Alseg wrote:
> BobD stated that the longer barrel is for "playing Orpheus in
> the Undereworld."
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Or at least "Orpheus Under Water." ![[rotate]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley25.gif)
Jeff
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2009-07-14 13:58
JJAlbrecht wrote:
> Alseg wrote:
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> > BobD stated that the longer barrel is for "playing Orpheus
> in
> > the Undereworld."
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> Or at least "Orpheus Under Water."
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> Jeff
Much more photogenic than "Orpheus in the Underwear"
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Author: grenadilla428
Date: 2009-07-14 14:12
<<But.....it's the Pro model and from Texas....and we haven't even evaluated it personally.>>
Fair enough, but the company in Texas could just be management and distribution. The question is, "who's actually making these instruments?"
<<I wonder why there would be two barrels on such an inexpensive instrument.>>
Easy advertising gimmick? It's already inexpensive - spending a few dollars to close the sale isn't going to hurt.
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Author: Chris J
Date: 2009-07-14 14:39
Click here for Orphoe web site
I am confused - anybody have any real knowledge of the instrument rather than speculation?
Is the above the correct web site. Because if it is, the retail price is not cheap.
And the info there suggests that if there are 2 barrels, then it is the "professional" version.
The two possible extremes are
Either these are
1. CSOs with a hyped retail price sold off at bargain prices, or
2. A reasonable clarinet sold very cheaply, and sold as student model advertised but professional model delivered by mistake.
And the truth may lie somewhere in between...
Chris
Post Edited (2009-07-14 14:45)
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Author: Chris J
Date: 2009-07-14 14:49
Just looking into the web site more - They are produced by / for Steve Goodson
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-07-14 15:07
Okay, did some digging.
The Amazon seller is jbmusicfactory who sell for the same price as Amazon, for $169 ($399 list).
But jmusicfactory also sells a "custom model" Orpheo OR-425 for $49.00 ($450 list). According to the Orpheo website, the MSRP of that exact same model is $700.
"Each clarinet is individually hand tuned and set up by our Clarinet technician." What a steal!
I think I rest my case.
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Ben
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2009-07-14 15:19
According to the dealers hyperlink, Fred Weiner sells them, so maybe someone could try them there and report back firsthand.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-07-14 19:01
Trill keys look like a Vito/TR147 design and they are hard rubber. After looking at their website and Amazon's I retract my snide remark.
Bob Draznik
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2009-07-15 00:34
On amazon, they sell the "Orpheo" and the company in Texas is "Opheus".
From what I can tell, these are 2 totally different companies... with similar names.
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Author: rsholmes
Date: 2009-07-15 01:03
The company is Orpheus Musical Instruments, but the clarinet they sell is the Orpheo Bb Clarinet, says their web site.
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2009-07-15 10:15
"The company is Orpheus Musical Instruments, but the clarinet they sell is the Orpheo Bb Clarinet, says their web site."
I made a mistake. [sigh] It had to happen eventually. ![[frown]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie2.gif)
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Author: Malcolm
Date: 2009-07-21 22:02
Up-date. jbmusicfactory is who shipped the clarinet to me. Besides two barrels I had a few keys that were stuck. Even though this was the "Custom" model which I paid $59 for they told me to send it to them and they would fix the problem.
I just mailed it to them. Now that's what I call customer service.
Malcolm
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Author: ohernandez
Date: 2009-07-31 23:47
I live in San Antonio and I just spoke with someone here at musicfactory.com. Their office is here in town and Im going to look at the student model orpheo clarinet on Monday. I will let everyone here know what I think of the place and the instrument. IT may be a CSO. The person I spoke with said they are made in Taiwan. I expressed that I dont want a disposable instrument or one that is so cheap it cant be worked on by a service shop. I was told that it comes with a one year warranty, and that they service the product. I will see what the actual warranty contract says. This is a clarinet for a middle school student, and I figure for 50.00 I wont lose too much, since the school rents me one for about 30.00 anyway plus I have to get it serviced at the end of the year. He was adamant that the instrument was good, and that it would play well. I will ask him to play it for me, since I can only make a few notes being a sax player myself. Will write next week.
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