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Author: senior
Date: 2009-06-15 03:03
The Eddie Daniels and the Grabner mouthpieces are made from the same blank. I have owned them both at the same time and in comparison, I liked the Grabner best. Now I find out that the Vytas Krass mouthpiece is also made from that same blank. Can some one tell me how the Krass differs from the Daniels and the Grabner?
Mer
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Author: CHAIKOVSKIY
Date: 2009-06-15 17:47
I'm not familiar with the Eddie Daniels mouthpieces but I own both the Grabner K11 and the Vytas Krass K05 mouthpieces.
Vytas Krass' mouthpiece has completely flat table, medium facing and the baffle is not as deep as on the Grabner K11.
As far as I can tell both mouthpieces are made from the same "A-frame" Zinner blank.
I've tried many mouthpieces made on Zinner blanks and they all sound almost the same. "Dark covered sound" and limited projection. I do not know what Vytas Krass has done to this blank but it doesn't sound like Zinner at all. The sound is dark, crystal clear and not covered. The mouthpiece projects wonderfully. So far the Vytas Krass K05 is my favorite mouthpiece.
Post Edited (2009-06-15 18:08)
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2009-06-15 18:51
Vytas is a regular contributor to this board and responds quickly to emails.
You might consider asking him directly via email.
FWIW I have a few of his refaced, non-Zinner, pieces, which are Lelandais types. They are quite good, but I have no experience with his Kaspar models.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2009-06-16 01:42
As far as I can tell the only mouthpiece made by Grabner made from the A frame Zinner blank is his AW_personal.
This describe of the Vytas mouthpiece sounds pretty good.
Does it have a good hold in the highest register ? By that I mean do you have something to push against ?
I've tried some Zinner based mouthpieces from various makers and they seem to be too free blowing in the upper register at least for my concept of sound, security and overall evenness.
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Author: CHAIKOVSKIY
Date: 2009-06-16 16:50
Iceland clarinet,
You don't have to make any changes to your embouchure or push against anything when you play Vytas Krass mouthpiece. It plays effortlessly in any register.
Post Edited (2009-06-16 16:51)
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2009-06-18 01:11
I'm a lousy clarinettist, but I thoroughly enjoy doing what I can, and have 3 Vytas Krass mouthpieces to help me along. They are of 3 different degrees of openness and sound a bit different from each other, yet all are easy for me to play. I love 'em.
Eu
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Author: senior
Date: 2009-06-23 00:55
I bought a Vytas Krass Mouthpiece K-05 to compare to my Grabner mouthpiece. The only way that these 2 mouthpieces are the same, is that they are both made from the same blank. Visually the K-05 has had better care in it's external finish. K-05 's tip is about .003 smaller but the curve length is the same. Entire reed table has been flattened. K-05's tip rail is narrower, baffle is deeper, throat has been deepened some and the walls are at an angle. The Grabner throat walls are straight. K-05's articulation is the best I have ever exsperianced, in all registers. Fast atack and easy to play. Both are great mouthpieces but one will not replace the other. They are too different Unlike the Daniels and Grabner, which are very close to being the same piece. My personal preference after playing all 3 is the K-05 with the Grabner a close second.
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2009-06-23 10:02
Senior what model of Grabner are you comparing the Krass to? How do they feel with reeds(reed friendly)? How do you feel starting the note from nothing and does they go a lot flat when played loud ?
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Author: MoonPatrol
Date: 2009-06-23 16:44
I think Ridenour uses the same Zinner blank. I have one and am having to go back to a Vandoren M30 to play in a musical, Hello Dolly, for a church. THe Ridenour is too hard to blow even with a medium reed. I need my air for the long passsages, but my high end is not sounding good to me or secure. Any suggestions? I also have a gigliotti, but it is so similar to the RD, but without the brightness I like for this kind of music.
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Author: senior
Date: 2009-06-23 19:20
I am comparing it to the Grabner K 14. Both mouthpieces are reed friendly. I had on hand 5 different brand of reeds in Strengths from 2 to 3 1/2. Only the 2 gave a problem. Intonation was good on both pieces for all registers and at all volumns with the Krass coming out better at the high end.
The Krass has a dark tone at the low end and gets brighter at the high end with a little buzz to the tone. Buzz can be controled with the selection of brand of reed. I found that high register very easy to play on the Krass.
Reeds are like Ice cream. Everybody likes a different flavor. For me it is Mitchell Lurie 2 1/2. That is for now. I just tried a new reed ( for me it's new ). It is called "My Masterpiece ". I got them from Weiner. I would like to say it's the best I have ever played but I only played one for about a half hour. So the jury is out on that reed. So I did most of my play testing of the 2 mouthpieces on the Mitchell Lurie 2 1/2.
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Author: alvydas
Date: 2010-02-25 19:47
My primary mouthpiece is Vytas Krass “R-03” but I also have Vytas Krass “K05” for backup.
I’ve tried an endless number of mouthpieces. The “R-03” gave me the tone, intonation, projection, total clarity, flexibility and response and ease of playing that I was looking for. The Krass’ mouthpieces are amazing! I never played anything like it.
AK
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