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Author: xeys_00
Date: 2009-05-23 17:24
I need to get my bass adjusted(221II). I've had it for about a week. The b flat doesn't seal right, and makes everything else down pretty much unplayable. It was fine when I got it though. My professor blessed it and everything. I think this may have something to do with the fact that this is a 2 part bass, and I might be putting pressure on the rods when I put it together and take it apart. Should I just keep it together, and get a different case for it?
Post Edited (2009-05-23 17:34)
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-05-23 19:40
No.
Learn to properly assemble and disassemble it. It's not fundamentally different from a soprano clarinet.
Besides, if the Bb doesn't seal then it has nothing to do with assembly - it's just that the Bb mechanism on a bass is a bit more, well, finicky than a soprano's. Have it serviced, and have the proper manipulation shown to you.
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Ben
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Author: DougR
Date: 2009-05-25 12:33
Maybe it's just my particular horn (older Selmer Series 9) but when I leave it assembled over a period of a couple days, it takes an iron grip to get the halves apart. (which can't possibly be good for key alignment etc.) Somehow, older, tight-fitting cork plus years of cork grease on the joint make the halves want to glue themselves together. since the bass is notoriously finicky in terms of adjustment, you do NOT want to be applying a grip of steel to separate the parts.
In other words, what tictactux said.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2009-05-25 15:35
Quick answer, NO, partic. if the joints are wood. The sticking- together runs the risk of tenon-socket and /or key damage when disassembly is needed. Your ? is making me take apart the bell and the mp-neck of my single-bodied H R bass cl !! TKS, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-05-25 17:27
Does your 221II have O-rings on the middle tenon (as well as a strip of cork)?
Be sure you hold the LH main action keywork CLOSED while assembling/dismantling your bass (and any other clarinet) as this will lift the linkage between the joints preventing it getting bent or having the key cork damaged or ripped off during assembly.
So lay the top joint in your left hand (palm upwards) and close your fingers around the joint so they hold the main action keywork (LH1, 2 and 3 fingerplates) closed.
Hold the bottom joint in your right hand with your palm downwards, closing the F/C pad cup with the lowest joint of your thumb and wrapping your fingers around the joint so it's held tightly.
Then put the joints together with a back and forth twisting motion while pushing them together, and line the bridge key up so both upper and lower parts of the linkage are flush with each other at the side.
While you're holding the pads closed during assembly, the keywork stands far less chance of being bent, and the linkage is raised for the same reason.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2009-05-26 13:37
As usual, I do it all wrong.
I generally keep my instruments together, have so for years, and have had no problem disassembling them when I need to. But I don't use the usual cork grease; I use Omar's "Dr. Syntek," and I use it liberally.
I don't worry about sticking, even in this southern climate.
Ben's right, though. Unless you're holding the instrument in some strange way when you assemble and disassemble it, the problem is elsewhere.
B.
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Author: xeys_00
Date: 2009-05-26 21:07
Well, I'm getting my bass back today when I get off work. The repairman said that the b flat key needed work, and that the rest of the instrument got looked over. Hopefully, when I pick it up, it'll be ok. I need to practice on the bass, even though I've been playing in the low register on my regular b flat. It's the fingerings I'm working on learning, and the b flat has been handy for this.
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Author: xeys_00
Date: 2009-05-26 21:08
Sorry I didn't respond to the question as to what it is. It's a new yamaha 221II.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-05-27 11:20
"New Yamaha": If it were mine I'd take it apart and swab properly after each playing session and put it back in its case. If it's wood (I'm not familiar) I'd also make sure to keep case humidity controlled.
Bob Draznik
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