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Author: Chris Hill
Date: 2009-05-19 04:51
I was experimenting with an old Bonade ligature today, and I really think it's particularly good. This one only has "D. Bonade" and "Patented" printed on it. The newer Bonades have "Bb cl" also printed on them, along with "Patent Pending." Does anyone else have an older Bonade like this? I'm trying to figure out whether it is just this particular one, which has a slight crack in it, or if the older ones are usually different.
I've seen threads on slightly older Bonades being better than the new ones, but I haven't found anything about these early ones.
Chris
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Author: saxlite
Date: 2009-05-19 05:19
Must be the "slight crack" that has the magic. I must get one....
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-05-19 11:40
Some experts have held that metal ligatures in general are less desirable since they are too "stiff". Maybe the crack does have something to do with your experience.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Tom Puwalski
Date: 2009-05-19 12:37
I sure wish I could tell the difference between different versions of the same ligature. I think how the reed is attached to the mouthpiece, is about the last thing in the "tone" chain.
Tom Puwalski
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Author: bcl1dso
Date: 2009-05-19 14:04
I have an older Bonade and would say without a doubt that i prefer it to my newer ones. I haven't been able to figure out why, it just seems to have that little extra that the newer Bonades don't seem to have
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2009-05-19 14:44
US 2,791,929 [1955], a Search [above] for Bonade Patent will retrieve our earlier discussions. Unless the imprinted claim "Patented" was in anticipation and not after issuance of the pat, your "Patent Pending" ligature is the older. So, good luck with your analysis. When I have a few minutes, I'll look up the pat, on Googlepatent, to look at its history. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: susieray
Date: 2009-05-19 16:03
The older Bonade ligatures were unplated nickel silver and some people prefer the old nickel silver ligatures in general.
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Author: Chris Hill
Date: 2009-05-19 16:25
Thanks, everyone! I had a local friend point out to me the same thing that Susieray said- the material is different. I tried hers, and it plays like the one I like. Now, I just have to find another one that isn't cracked, so it'll last longer...
There are lots of people who sell old mouthpieces- does anyone know of anyone who sells old ligatures?
Chris
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Author: Clari
Date: 2009-05-19 21:44
Curious why did manufacturers stop using nickel-silver to make keys and ligatures? Is it a cost issue?
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Author: Bill
Date: 2009-05-20 00:19
I had an old Bonade I sold to ... I think Chester Rowell. Nickel silver (nonspecific term!!!) and NOT inverted.
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
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Author: mrn
Date: 2009-05-20 00:24
Clari wrote:
<<Curious why did manufacturers stop using nickel-silver to make keys and ligatures? Is it a cost issue?>>
I didn't think they did (at least for keys). Aren't the R-13's keys made of nickel-silver? (and then electroplated with copper and then nickel [or silver] on top of that)
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