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 Pirates of Penzance
Author: Michael Rosen 
Date:   2009-05-07 19:57

Anyone here ever play woodwinds for this show? I'm doing summer stock and I'll be reducing all the wind parts into one book. I'll have my clarinet, alto sax, flute, picc, bass clarinet and oboe. Just wondering if there is anything strange to expect. I saw that there is alto flute on Bret's board. Anyone know how important the alto flute stuff is? I'm pretty sure we're not doing the Doyle and Carte version. I also read somewhere about needing to play low eb on soprano clarinet for this show. If true can I get away with playing those sections on bass or is this a good excuse for me to finally get that Ridenour Basset Clarinet since I never picked up an A clarinet?

Thanks

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 Re: Pirates of Penzance
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2009-05-07 20:15

The original orchestration uses A clarinet extensively, including the low E. It won't be easy to play the A parts on Bb. On the other hand, Ned's hornpipe, which is written for A clarinet, is much easier on the Bb.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Pirates of Penzance
Author: GBK 
Date:   2009-05-07 20:29

A few years ago I did about 5 performances of Pirates of Penzance playing clarinet book 4 (A and Bb)

We had the D'Oyly Carte orchestration.

The music is easy, very playable (even at first reading) with (if i remember correctly) clarinet books 4 and 5 written with double staves, on the same page.

...GBK

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 Re: Pirates of Penzance
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2009-05-07 20:38

I did this last year at the famous Buxton G&S Festival. It's all mainly A clarinet with some Bb. Not difficult in the slightest. We did it with single players from an English arranger who substituted the bassoon for a 2nd clarinet. Strange...

Enjoy and after you finish the performances try and listen to as much other music as possible or else the tunes will keep you awake at night for a very long time afterwards.

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Pirates of Penzance
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2009-05-08 11:53

>>Enjoy and after you finish the performances try and listen to as much other music as possible or else the tunes will keep you awake at night for a very long time afterwards.
>>

That's a bad thing? Earworms from Gilbert and Sullivan always welcome here (although somehow the pirate / pilot jokes seem a lot less funny while real pirates run amok in Somalia).

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.

Post Edited (2009-05-08 11:55)

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 Re: Pirates of Penzance
Author: kdk 
Date:   2009-05-08 12:02

What parts you'll need to cover probably depends on what verion you're playing.

The original version, like the rest of the G&S output, was scored for a standard basic orchestra - 2 of each woodwind and brass, percussion (mostly timps) and strings. I spent a couple of summers playing almost all of the shows (a long time ago, so my memory for detail may be hazy), and I don't remember any bass clarinet or English Horn (or tuba) and certainly no saxes.

I don't know what the New York production (from more or less the same time the movie with Rex Harris and Linda Ronstadt came out - 1970s?) did to the orchestrations, considering that even Rodgers & Hammerstein shows (also originally scored for a standard orchestral complement), when they've been "revived" over the past 25 years, have often been fitted out with saxes and auxiliary parts that Robert Russell Bennet (Rodgers's orchestrator) never used in his pit orchestrations.

Karl

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 Re: Pirates of Penzance
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2009-05-08 14:01

Karl,

The original G&S orchestrations were 2 flutes and clarinets but single bassoon and oboe. D'Oyly Carte continued with this line up for many years afterwards. Any arrangements done subsequently have usually been single winds with flute doubling picc. As well as single brass and sometimes two players per string part.

Peter Cigleris

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