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Author: sinebar
Date: 2009-04-20 20:54
Ok so I have learned that the pads change and leak when they get moist and I experience this everytime I play. But what about a wooden tone hole? How much does the tone hole change and contribute to the leak? Is there a pad besides cork that doesn't have this problem?
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Author: Rusty
Date: 2009-04-20 20:59
I did`nt know pads leaked when they got moist. Usually when things gets wet they becomes softer and should, in the case of pads, seal better.
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Author: Vytas
Date: 2009-04-20 21:25
sinebar wrote:
>"Ok so I have learned that the pads change and leak when they get moist and I experience this everytime I play"<.
That's nonsense my friend!
(I assume you're talking about your freshly re-padded Selmer clarinet mentioned in this thread):
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=299767&t=299767
Vytas Krass
Clarinet Repair
Professional clarinet technician
Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
Former professional clarinet player
Post Edited (2009-04-21 13:58)
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Author: sinebar
Date: 2009-04-20 23:20
Vytas wrote:
> sinebar wrote:
> >"Ok so I have learned that the pads change and leak when
> they get moist and I experience this everytime I play"<.
>
> That's nonsense my friend!
>
> Vytas Krass
> Clarinet Repair
> Professional clarinet technician
> Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
> Former professional clarinet player
>
Then why does the middle B play good at the first of the practice session but then start getting hard to play after about 15-30 minuets of playing. The C isn't much better at that point. Every wood clarinet I have ever played, new or used, I ran into this problem. It's the wierdest dam thing about that B. I wish someone could give me a solid answer on this. I have read the pads absorb moisture and then swell.
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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2009-04-20 23:24
It is known that people play clarinets more than 30 minutes without the
kinds of problems you described.
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Author: pewd
Date: 2009-04-21 01:30
The symptoms you describe can happen if the surface of the pad is damaged, allowing moisture to enter, swelling the pads.
Have them replaced by a compentent tech.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2009-04-21 01:43
If there is a leak at the E/B pad in the lower joint and the pad looks "puffier" (a little 'U'-shaped) than other pads, could that puffy pad cause a leak there?
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2009-04-21 04:00
Have you ever had this not happen on any clarinet?! If it always happens after about 20 minutes, on every clarinet you play, then maybe you are doing something to make this happen? You did say it happened on every (wood) clarinet you played.
Maybe you are getting tired after 20 minutes and it's hard to keep the last ring key covered. Maybe all clarinets you've played had a slight adjustment problem with the bottom two open pads, and after a while you get tired and don't press them hard enough to seal.
Consider that many people play clarinet for hours, days, even years without ever having this problem.
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Author: sinebar
Date: 2009-04-21 12:20
clarnibass wrote:
> Have you ever had this not happen on any clarinet?! If it
> always happens after about 20 minutes, on every clarinet you
> play, then maybe you are doing something to make this happen?
> You did say it happened on every (wood) clarinet you played.
>
> Maybe you are getting tired after 20 minutes and it's hard to
> keep the last ring key covered. Maybe all clarinets you've
> played had a slight adjustment problem with the bottom two open
> pads, and after a while you get tired and don't press them hard
> enough to seal.
>
> Consider that many people play clarinet for hours, days, even
> years without ever having this problem.
You could be right. I am somewhat of a beginner. My fingers are very small also. The pads are brand new BTW.
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Author: meagan4647
Date: 2009-04-21 21:00
no the wood does not leak if you don't but oil on it then yes it will
meagan4647@yahoo.com
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2009-04-22 01:22
sinabar, i can agree with you up to a point. It seems to me that if a pad gets "soaked" it certainly can leak. You know, when there is water in the tone hole and you hear a goggle sound. It's possible that the pad is so wet that it no longer seals 100%. On the other hand, a wet pad can seal just fine in many cases. It depends on the condition of the pad and just how wet the pad gets. If it is so soaked that water is leaking out of the pad then air can leak as well too. I suggest that you swab about every 15 minutes if you're have this problem and dry all the pads on the upper joint. Just put a piece of pad paper under each of the pads and press gently. If the pad is wet first blow the water out of the hole and then keep moving the paper around under the pad until it no longer shows a damp image. Any small leak in the upper joint, no matter how small, will effect the break notes. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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