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 Difficulties for young musicians
Author: awm34 
Date:   2009-04-15 15:55

Compelling story of the challenges faced by a talented young violinist:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/15/us/15land.html?hp

Alan Messer



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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2009-04-15 16:00

Well written!

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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2009-04-15 19:33

That's quite a story. Too bad there isn't a "toxic resumes" site where prospective employers could find the names of people who deserve never to get hired for anything paying more than minimum wage. One who belongs on that list: the rich spoiled brat who celebrated high school graduation by smashing a violin -- not his best violin, of course, but the spare, worth a mere $10,000.

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Nessie1 
Date:   2009-04-16 07:57

Two things I hope from this - one is that Tiffany continues to play and enjoy music in some way or other. Whether you play professionally or not is not the be all and end all, as I think I have said before on this board but the most important thing is the joy it can bring to you and others. The other thing I hope is that, as Lelia says, somebody whips bits of that rich kid's anatomy that I probably would get censored for mentioning!

Vanessa.

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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: oliver sudden 
Date:   2009-04-16 09:31

> The other thing I
> hope is that, as Lelia says, somebody whips bits of that rich
> kid's anatomy that I probably would get censored for
> mentioning!

His wallet?

Maybe he was inspired by François-René Duchable...

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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Margaret 
Date:   2009-04-16 14:49

Even if the smashed violin had been worth much less, it is wrong to ruin serviceable instruments.

I hope that he gets a much needed intervention of some sort; he obviously is in dire need of one.

I hope that Tiffany continues to play music too.

Margaret

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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2009-04-16 15:56

Margaret wrote,
>>Even if the smashed violin had been worth much less, it is wrong to ruin serviceable instruments.
>>

Yes. Since the money meant nothing to him and he didn't want the instrument, either, then why not sell that violin and give the proceeds to a charity that provides instruments for schools in low-income neighborhoods? Well, I hope he lived to grow up and be ashamed of his callous young self -- and I hope the kids who care about music and value their instruments can manage to hang in there somehow.

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2009-04-16 16:08

Lelia Loban wrote:

> Well, I hope he lived to grow up
> and be ashamed of his callous young self

Or perhaps the person saying this was just ... ahh ... adding to the apocrypha ...

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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Margaret 
Date:   2009-04-16 17:21

Mark Charette wrote: "Or perhaps the person saying this was just ... ahh ... adding to the apocrypha ..."

I fail to see how anything Lelia wrote is dubious or questionable. She is entitled to her opinions; this was clearly expressed as an opinion, particularly given the use of the subjective personal pronoun "I". As such, it is not for anyone else to judge the authenticity of her remarks.

In light of this and given the meaning of "apocrypha" with a lowercase A, your statement makes no sense.

I, too, hope that he realizes the error of his ways; it may prevent future instrument casualties and can only help him grow as a person.

I hope that my statement is clear enough.

Margaret

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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2009-04-16 18:01

Margaret wrote:

> Mark Charette wrote: "Or perhaps the person saying this was
> just ... ahh ... adding to the apocrypha ..."
>

The person in the article who says that one student smashed a $10,000 violin, Margaret.

If I meant Lelia I would say Lelia.

For the story to be true we need to accept at least 4 things:

1) People telling stories don't lie
2) People telling stories don't exaggerate.
3) Reporters reporting on a story don't make mistakes when transcribing their interviews
4) Reporters reporting on a story don't sensationalize or exxagerate.

I have personally found in my 55 years of living all the above to often be false, sometimes all at the same time.

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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Margaret 
Date:   2009-04-17 00:43

I misunderstood your message Mark, and I apologize.

You quoted Lelia and left a short, terse message which, as I said, did not make sense. The context it was delivered in was ambiguous, I suppose, due to its brevity. Considering that you quoted her and then said "perhaps the person saying this" immediately after with no additional context is the cause.

Of course people do all of the above things you've mentioned, but smashing any instrument, as noted, is still wrong. To me it doesn't matter what kind of instrument was smashed. The price is unimportant.

Margaret



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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2009-04-17 02:10

Margaret wrote:

> To me
> it doesn't matter what kind of instrument was smashed.

If any instrument was smashed at all.

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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Alfred 
Date:   2009-04-17 11:51

That violinist is a fool, and, based on that, is no musician at all.

Just an idiot with an instrument.



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 Re: Difficulties for young musicians
Author: Margaret 
Date:   2009-04-17 21:28

Alfred wrote:

>That violinist is a fool, and, based on that, is no musician at all.

If there was any violinist at all :D

Margaret

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