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Author: janlynn
Date: 2009-04-15 13:16
Just wondering if anyone has ever played them?
My teacher said I had to beable to play the Rose Etudes first and we just finished that and I have started one of the Gigue's (the easiest one) and a prelude. it seems a lot harder than the rose etudes.
any thoughts, helpful hints how to tackle it etc...
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-04-15 13:28
If you mean the Cello Solos (BWV 1007 through 1012), yes, they're part of my warm-up routine.
I expect to master them in some twenty years from now on...maybe.
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Ben
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2009-04-15 13:38
I assume you mean the cello suites? They're wonderful pieces to practice. Some of them are a little too "stringy," but their advantages in having been written so well for a single unaccompanied instrument outweigh the occasionally too string-bound technical issues. I just don't play the ones very much that rely on double and triple stopping for their contrapuntal effects. I have a set that are transposed up a fifth (and an octave) so they fall on violin strings better and I mostly use those, since the ranges more closely fit the clarinet and don't cause the octave jumps that the original keys do. Occasionally, I pull out the original cello music to play on bass clarinet.
Karl
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Author: Nessie1
Date: 2009-04-15 15:29
Haven't done all of the suites but I have found the 21 Pezzi arranged by Giampieri from extracts from both the unaccompanied violin and cello works to be quite useful and interesting.
Vanessa.
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Author: arundo
Date: 2009-04-15 16:14
janlynn:
At the end of my daily routine I play the prelude to the Suite #2. I recall that it is used in one of Ingmar Bergman's films. But even better than the transcriptions of the Suites (which are certainly great music but not all of them fall comfortably on the clarinet) is an out of print set of transcriptions of selections from both the Cello Suites and Unacompanied Violin Sonatas and Partitas by Corroyez. It's out of print, but I - and I'm sure other old-timers out - there have a crumbling copy. You can learn a great deal about music from their study, expecially in conjunction with great recordings of them (e.g. Rostropovich on cello or Henryk Szering on violin).
mark dickman
7738565490
markdickman82@hotmail.com
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2009-04-15 18:33
janlynn -
The Bach cello suites are great music, which you should know as part of your basic music education.
Most of the movements are in Hymie Voxman's Classical Studies for Clarinet, which also include movements from the violin solo sonatas and partitas. Gary van Cott has it for $8.95, item C163, http://www.vcisinc.com/clarinetmusiccollections.htm
It's an old Rubank edition, so there are typos, but it's still worth having. Bach was writing for strings, so there are lots of wide arpeggios, which are easy for the bow crossing from one string to the next, but difficult on clarinet. Still, it's great music and well worth the low price.
There is also a transcription of the cello suites for English horn, WW10, http://www.vcisinc.com/oboemusic.htm. The English horn goes down only to B, so the tessitura is quite high. Get the cello version instead, and practice reading bass clef (not to mention scordatura in alto clef for #6), or, better yet, get the manuscripts free on the WWW and work from those:
http://www.wimmercello.com/bachs1ms.html
http://www.wimmercello.com/bachs2ms.html
http://www.wimmercello.com/bachs3ms.html
http://www.wimmercello.com/bachs4ms.html
http://www.wimmercello.com/bachs5ms.html
http://www.wimmercello.com/bachs6ms.html
Ken Shaw
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2009-04-15 18:53
Hi, check out my website. I have an article on the bass clarinet page about playing the suites, though I never do the last one because of the change of clefs. I also have a few of them on my bass clarinet recording page that I performed in a live performance several years ago. I hope you enjoy the articles and the recordings. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-04-15 18:58
FWIW all suites are on the Mutopia Project site; for a transposition for Clarinet all I had to do was to modify the master page with something like
\score { { \clef "violin" \transpose c f { \prelude } }
\layout { }
\header { piece = "Prélude" }
}
which creates the score with a violin clef and transposes it so that the lowest note isn't C but F.
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Ben
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Author: janlynn
Date: 2009-04-15 19:12
thanks for the input everyone. i will go check out your site ed.
Jan
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