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Author: tb0b
Date: 2000-10-31 00:52
What do you guys think about the $15-20 metal Bonade ligatures?
What should i get....inverted or regular?
also, What is better? metal ligs, plastic, fabric or whatever?
Have any of you tried the Harrison-Hurtz ligatures?
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Author: Ken Rasmussen
Date: 2000-10-31 02:30
I've got a Harrison ligature I no longer play. It is very nicely made. It has a nice bright sound. I don't like a nice bright sound, so I don't play it.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2000-10-31 03:13
I have come to prefer the inverted ligs, and as said below, I like my older Bonades. I have an Har.-Hur. but havent played it enough to judge. I like the Luyben and Gigliotti fairly well. I believe that they all have a somewhat similar multi-point reed pressure action which makes sense [to me]. Maybe Peter Spriggs will give us a bit of help here, please!! Don
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Author: William
Date: 2000-10-31 15:01
Daniel Bonade was the legendary principal clarinetist for many years with the Boston Symphony Orchestra and teacher of many clarinetists who went on to stellar careers of their own with major orchestras world wide. His ligs, while tempermenta, requiring regular adjustment and care, are some of the best on the market and have been often copied by other makers (VD Optimun and BG products, ex). It is recomended that you use the "inverted" lig and not over-tighten the screws as you will leave deep grooves in your reed after while. Bonade ligs play with a bright "French" vibrant sound and enable a crisp articualtion in all registers. I now play Winslow ligs, but before that used Bonade ligs exclusively. Harrison ligs are ok (his gimmick is the "H" design of the section that holds the reed) but I would definately try the BG ligs before purchasing anything else. PS--One of the other "best" old ligs still on the market is the Mitchel Laurie "Magic Window" lig. It features a smooth, vibrant sound that is "darker" than the compartively bright Bonade. It is important that you try as many different ligs as you can as they do have a remarkable impact on the quality and reponse of your sound. Good luck!!
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Author: drew
Date: 2000-10-31 17:41
Harrison-Hurtz ligs are tough to find, I've heard that Mr. Harrison is deceased and the company is inactive.
The Bonade ligs have some serious quality problems and usually put deep scratches in your mouthpiece. You can file them down to precent this, but I don't like fixing such problems.
Please consider the very nice ligature from Robert Vinson, called "Equatone;" it is availabile from WW&BW and Muncy, perhaps others. It is made from polypropylene, is inverted style, won't mar your mouthpiece. About $15.00 and comes with a mouthpiece cap.
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Author: thomas
Date: 2000-11-01 07:44
why not try the cheapest ? the good old german string ligature is for me simply the best!
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2000-11-01 14:04
Daniel Bonade was principal in Philadelphia under Stokowski and the first few Ormandy years. Then he became principal in Cleveland under Rodzinski, then taught at Juilliard. I don't think he was ever in the Boston Symphony. He was a legendary player and teacher, with, I'm told, an enormous ego.
You can hear his playing on CD reissues of the Stokowski and Rodzinski recordings. Big sound, bold playing, infallible technique.
Many well known players use his ligature (usually the inverted style). Harold Wright used one, getting a new one every year because, for him, they got stretched out after than time. I believe Marcellus also used one, with the vertical part between the horizontal bands cut out with a hacksaw, so that there were two short bars at the top and two at the bottom that contacted the reed.
I have a regular and an inverted one, both over 30 years old and well made. Everyone says the new ones are poor, but you could probably fix them with pliers (to bend the vertical part so that the bars are flat on the reed) and a file (to round off the sharp edges). For me, string plays better.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: BAC
Date: 2000-11-01 16:29
I use the new VD - it has three different pressure plates you can use for the need at hand, and what I really like about it is it only has one screw. Easy on and off.
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Author: William
Date: 2000-11-01 20:32
OPPS~!!! Thank you , Ken. I stand corrected regarding Mr. Bonade's career history. William
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