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Author: timw
Date: 2009-03-20 10:03
Hi- I am upset because I recently bid on an R13 and I now suspect that it has had a crack in it. The owner said it was in Excellent condition and in great shape.Can this be so if it had a crack at one time. Instrument was made in 2001.
tw
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Author: timw
Date: 2009-03-20 10:08
I should also ad this question. Should I buy this or refuse due to the owner not being up front about this condition? I am pretty upset with myself -feeling kinda stupid for not asking first.
tw
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Author: jbutler ★2017
Date: 2009-03-20 17:10
I you haven't purchased it don't. You have some recourse if you paid by credit card but I'm afraid that you may not if you paid by money order, cash or check. I stopped doing online auction bids several years ago after getting burned too often and the "major" on line company siding with the seller every time. (They don't make money if the sale doesn't go through.)
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2009-03-20 17:51
I agree with jbutler above. It should have been disclosed and you can give a negative feedback on the seller, but little else unless you are able to get him to take it back and refund your money (minus shipping probably).
Although I've sold multiple things on the unmentionable site, I also have been burned big-time on it. So, now I only deal with people I know are reputable and will stand behind their sales. Sadly, this pretty much limits the purchases I do to a few people and not often a single sale owner just needing to sell his/her personal instrument. It is true that you can sometimes get a real good buy on such a thing, it's also true that the person may not have a refund policy and may not represent his/her product acurately.
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Author: redwine
Date: 2009-03-21 12:19
Hello,
A crack isn't the end of the world, unless it enters the bore, if you can have a qualified repairman fix the crack. Your ISP says New Jersey, if that's where you live, feel free to contact me directly for my repairman's contact info (he lives in Jersey City). If I were in your position, I would contact the seller and negotiate a lower price, subject to your inspection of the clarinet that the crack doesn't enter the bore. Good luck.
Ben Redwine, DMA
owner, RJ Music Group
Assistant Professor, The Catholic University of America
Selmer Paris artist
www.rjmusicgroup.com
www.redwinejazz.com
www.reedwizard.com
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Author: fargus
Date: 2009-03-21 12:31
Don't buy it. You definately should have been told about the crack.
You can just refuse to pay, it shouldn't cause any trouble for you or the seller in the long term. You just mutally agree not to leave any feedback at all.
If you've paid by Paypal already you might have a comeback. You just open a dispute and usually you get some compensation.
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Author: timw
Date: 2009-03-21 12:39
Thanks for the response. Luckily, soneone outbid Me. Whew! A lesson learned!
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2009-03-21 13:13
Ahh. Well, if you hadn't been outbid and you remained the high bidder and hadn't finalilzed purchase of the instrument and noticed the crack you could have told the seller you didn't want to go through with the sale. Usually a seller will be reasonable about such a situation--especially when you had a good reason not to complete the sale.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2009-03-21 14:13
"Don't buy it. You definitely should have been told about the crack."
Hmm. I suspect that Selmer and Buffet (and others) market a fair few instruments that have small cracks that appear during production, that are dealt with (and likely painted over with that black goo that they use.)
Do they... would they tell you?
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