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Author: Dileep Gangolli
Date: 2009-03-17 03:00
Only proves that there are only two clarinet players capable of sharing the summit of Everest at this time: Morales and Carbonare.
Similar to Ali and Foreman in their day.
No one else can get in the ring with these two guys.
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2009-03-17 18:22
Carbonare's playing just speaks to me, it is as if there is a direct line between what comes out of his clarinet and my musical psyche. Actually, he is probably the only player that consistently makes me believe he is a musician rather than a clarinetist.
Despite all their achievements, Morales and Frost are still clarinet players to me.
However, I feel quite uncomfortable making these types of ranking, there are so many players I have never heard, so many recordings that are a bad representations of a player's abilities. I'm sorry this thread is turning into a "who's the best" deal.
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Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
Post Edited (2009-03-17 18:29)
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Author: vials
Date: 2009-03-17 18:23
yeah I have to agree with David, if we really must rank these guys, Fröst DEFINITELY can "get in the ring" with Carbonare and Morales
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Author: Dileep Gangolli
Date: 2009-03-17 20:06
I agree...all three are virtuosi. And you never see them wasting time writing on the Clarinet BB (like us) as they are too busy practicing and concertizing.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2009-03-17 21:19
And don't forget Acker Bilk.
FWIW, I have one Morales CD. It's amazing. I don't have an Carbonare CD, however from what I've heard of his (the intro to Vandoren's website, some clips on his website), he's awesome. But like Sylvain said, there are too many clarinetists I haven't heard to make a final judgement. But do I consider them to be cream of the crop? Oh yeah. I'm just not sure how many other clarinetists I would put up there too. For my money, even though it's a different style altogether, I'd put Paquito D'Rivera up there.
Alexi
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2009-03-17 21:41
Technique alone doesn't ever impress me. Musicality, and a really good sound combined with the technique does.
There are several top world class players out there, and we all know the names.
I guess the competition is record sales, but record sales are a direct effect of promotional skill and the $$$ put into it.
A great player on a recording that isn't publically visible doesn't result in great sales. I think of the Bartok Contrasts that Ricardo plays on that is a really good recording that doesn't have high visibility.
I've got at least 1 (probably 3) of Alessandro's CD or recordings, and they certainly are really good.
Looking forward to getting this one when it hits Itunes!
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: brycon
Date: 2009-03-17 22:00
My favorite clarinet player can beat up your favorite clarinet player...
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2009-03-17 22:33
Dileep Gangolli wrote:
>> I agree...all three are virtuosi. And you never see them wasting time writing on the Clarinet BB (like us) as they are too busy practicing and concertizing.>>
Excuse me, who is this 'us'? Unless you have a mouse in your pocket.
YOU waste your, and our, time on the Clarinet BB.
Others here try to make a contribution; and sometimes, judging by the responses, they do.
Get back to promoting BOUTIQUES, which you may, or may not, be 'good' at.
Tony
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Author: Dileep Gangolli
Date: 2009-03-18 00:56
Tony,
Thanks for your response to my posting. I have been a fan of yours and have some of your recordings including the Spohr Concerti (on vinyl).
You are a fine player, much better than me, and I salute you and your body of work.
But excuse me, you are not in the league of the three fellows we are talking about.
Sorry.
Me & my mouse
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2009-03-18 02:24
I like Tony's playing better than Frost and Carbonare. Those 2 are showy, but Tony has more substance to me - a better musician.
As well Tony is probably a more rounded musician with his Orchestral playing, Soloist and University work.
It's not a competition, and opinion is just that.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2009-03-18 03:53
Dileep Gangolli wrote:
>> But excuse me, you are not in the league of the three fellows we are talking about.>>
You think I'm cross with you because I'm jealous of your expressing admiration for three admirable clarinettists?
You poor, small-minded fool.
What got me was the combination of your coarsely expressed and unsupported dismissal of a serious discussion in another thread, coupled with your suggestion here that writing on the BBoard is a waste of time.
That you combine the parading of your ignorance with the parading of your own indifferent playing doesn't help.
Tony
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2009-03-18 12:24
WOW!!!
I have to admit that I have not really been keeping up with the young cats these days to include kids like Carbonare and Morales.
Upon hearing Carbonare for the first time, I find this collage to be amazing. There is phenomenal technique coupled with a wonderful tone.
It always amazes me that in just twenty years or so, double/triple tonguing and circular breathing have become standard clarinet techniques.
I am rightfully feeling very old and very humble.
................Paul Aviles
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2009-03-18 14:26
Iceland Clarinet, do you understand the context of your verbiage and the implications in the English language?
James
Gnothi Seauton
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