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Author: ilasunshne
Date: 2009-02-21 01:34
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I have inherited what seems to be a sterling silver clarinet. I have been unable to identify it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have included a description as well as 4 pics.
The serial number is K6289. Across the lower middle of the bell MADE IN AMERICA is engraved with a wide u shaped vine with 2 leaves on each side and 2 leaves in the middle. On top of that are 3 flowers(?) in a row. From left to right is a tulip, a headband type flower with no bottom and another tulip. What looks like a number 7 is lightly engraved above and to the right of the middle flower. On the underside of one of the (lever?) keys is the number 19. The barrell, mouthpiece cover, and sheet holder are all silver as well.
The case is a long skinny case with an extra furry red interior. The top right side of the case pertrudes out for the bell.
Thanks in advance!!
Sincerely, Angie
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2009-02-22 01:25
I have a metal clarinet that came in an identical case, but in much worse shape. Like yours there is no makers name or mark on the instrument.
Many manufacturers have made instruments under contract to other companies who would then put their names on them. Or this could have been some kind of government purchase thing. No idea.
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Author: blazian
Date: 2009-02-22 03:10
If only we only had to identify the case! The case for my Neurnberger is exactly the same. Have you looked up the serial number yet?
- Martin
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-02-22 10:50
That style case was common for a number of different makes of metal clarinets. I have Cundy-Bettoney and Noblet that all have the same case as that shown.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2009-02-22 11:58
It looks to me as if that engraving on the bell is deliberately sparse to leave room for a store to add its own brand name. Several manufacturers made clarinets without the engraved factory brand name for this purpose, but many stores didn't pay extra to have a store logo added to the factory engraving. As a result, quite a few "no-name" metal clarinets are out there. Sorry not to be more help, but it's difficult to figure out who made these unbranded instruments unless there's something unusual about them that's unique to one particular factory. The money value of these instruments is lower than clarinets with "good" brand names, but if a no-name plays well (and some do) or if the previous owner was someone special, then it may be well worth keeping.
I've bought three different brands of metal clarinets in cases just like that one, btw. It must have been widely available for factories and stores to brand with their own logos or leave blank to sell for clarinets that didn't come with cases.
Lelia
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Author: Molloy
Date: 2009-02-22 21:13
I believe that's a Bettoney stencil comparable to the Three Star, their inexpensive student model.
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Author: jim lande
Date: 2009-02-23 03:58
To add to Lelia's remarks, I happened to notice on eBay a metal clarinet with essentially the same engraving, but with "Edfred's" etched in the middle. Edfred's was a music store, not a maker. Hard to know how many companies made metal clarinets. I suspect that some workshops, especially in France, didn't sell anything under their own names.
I would guess it wasn't made by Cundy Bettoney partly because I have never seen a CB with a barrel that long and partly because the keywork looks wrong. Also, many CB metal clarinets were marked with 'patent pending' or the 1929 patent number.
What you have is a student model that was silver plated, probably over brass. They tend to go for $40 to $70 on eBay, depending.
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Author: modernicus
Date: 2009-02-24 17:53
That's a tough one, the bell joint detail doesn't look familiar (different than 3 star- I concur). I would also say it is one of the many generic metal student clarinets of the early 20th c. not marketed by the actual manufacturer/factory that produced them.
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