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Author: ljp
Date: 2009-02-02 01:37
This is a repost. I changed the subject to make it more general, but by that time the post was buried.
I bought a King Marigaux Bb clarinet at that famous auction site. There are 3 different numbers on the clarinet. One piece has 355 T on the top and 460 on the other end. The other piece has 365 on it.
I understand that 355 T is the model number and suspect that the others are serial numbers. However, shouldn't the serial numbers be the same?
My daughter plays this instrument flat at 440; but because she has the same problem on a new Noblet we suspect its her and not the instrument. She has been playing Bass and Contra Alto this year.
I thought she hit more notes with the Vito; however, her smile when she played the Marigaux tells me there is more to life than hitting the notes.
I found the archives a wonderful resource for researching clarinets that came up on the auction site.
Larry Phillips
http://www.clubwebcanada.ca/l-pphillips/
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Author: Vytas
Date: 2009-02-02 02:12
You have two joints from two different clarinets. Definitely this instrument did not come this way from the factory. Let's hope that the joints are from the same 'Marigaux 355T' model.
Vytas Krass
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Professional clarinet technician
Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
Former professional clarinet player
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2009-02-02 12:56
I agree with Vytas Krass. Many of the clarinets I see at flea markets are "marriages" of this type. Beware of marriages of sections from clarinets made by different manufacturers, because different manufacturers put the joints in slightly different places relative to the positions of the keys and holes. The sections from different makes may not fit together properly and the married clarinet may never play in tune. The same problem can occur with clarinets made by the same manufacturer at different times. For instance, I couldn't play on a marriage of my 1931 Buffet clarinet in A with my 1977 Buffet R13 in A. I couldn't even put the sections together to see what they'd sound like, because the tenons and sockets are different diameters.
It's common for vendors who buy up miscellaneous job-lots at school auctions (where band directors get rid of damaged school instruments) to put together several cannibalized, partial instruments to fill up a plausible-looking case. To a casual viewer, these cases look as if they hold complete instruments, but I reverse the old Reagan rule -- instead of "Trust, but verify," I prefer to verify first, then trust. Sometimes, sections from two clarinets made by the same comapany during the same general time period will make a good, complete instrument, but I never assume anything -- I'd only buy a marriage in person, so I could try it out first.
Lelia
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Author: ljp
Date: 2009-02-02 16:24
We didn't play the clarinet prior to receiving it. I did know about the different numbers; but didn't realize what they meant. I was hoping that someone sorted through the parts bin until they found a perfect match.
The clarinet sounds good and is in tune. My daughter claims she's checking . She is using a Vandoren B45 mouthpiece and is happy with the way the clarinet plays. Getting her to practice is a struggle. She plays in band class, symphony, and jazz. However, she plays bass and contra alto clarinets. I've been using her difficulties hitting the notes on the clarinet to suggest just playing isn't sufficient. It worked last night
Larry Phillips
http://www.clubwebcanada.ca/l-pphillips/
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