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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2009-01-12 14:59
Check the earlier post on "Clarinet in the movies", as this was one of my answers to a fellow poster.
Hi Effer Guy:
I use a "black-wood" FOBES 43mm barrel on my Buffet Eb Clarinet from the 1960s (got it from Dave Schfrin!), along with the fantastic FOBES Eb Extension. It's all a perfect match with my setup.
I also use:
Vandoren #5 Eb reeds
Harrison Gold Ligature
Selmer 1960 (refaced by Kaspar) Mouthpiece
I play Eb Clarinet at least 8 times a week at WICKED on Broadway, in addition to other gigs during the week, so the Eb gets quite a workout.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2009-01-12 15:01
From my earlier post:
Funny you mention "Viktor's Tale" by John Williams, it was written for the late & great L.A. clarinetist, Emily Bernstein, a friend & colleague.
I just performed the William's piece for a Pops Concert last month in New York at Purchase College in Westchester, NY. It was a great crowd-pleaser!
I have recorded over 200 movie sound tracks over the past 25+ years here in NYC.
Many had notable clarinet, Eb clarinet, Bass or Contra-Bass solos.
To name a few:
"And the Band Played On"
"Interview With a Vampire"
"You've Got Mail"
"Hester Street"
"Wolf"
"Beauty and the Beast"
"Aladdin"
"Reckless"
"Lovesick"
"A Chorus Line"
"Love and Money" (Copland Clarinet Concerto)
"Femme Fatale" (Bolero)
"A Map of the World" (Pat Methany score)
"The Informant" (due for release in 2009)
Check for other movies you might be interested in on my webpage:
http://www.johnmosesclarinet.com
and check on "Credits" then "Filmography".
Another source for movies is http://www.imdb.com and, if you place my name in "search", you'll find other movies I've played in.
Good luck with your searches.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
Post Edited (2009-01-12 15:02)
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Author: LarryBocaner ★2017
Date: 2009-01-12 16:14
Just slightly off topic:
I performed, along with Chris Hite and Nancy Genovese, Peter Schickele's "Dances for Three" last friday. This is germane because the composer's dedication is to Joseph Rabbai, John Moses and Laurie Goldstein (bassoon).
Originally written for two clarinets and bassoon, with the composer's blessing the bassoon part was skilfully transcribed for low-c bass clarinet by Ron Aufmann (Cincinnati Symphony).
The piece is a delightful romp; audience loved it. Thanks to you John, for having been in on its creation.
Warm regards,
Larry
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2009-01-12 21:37
Thanks Larry, for your kind words.
Peter & I have been close friends for many years. We had great fun doing his PDQ Bach concerts at Carnegie Hall in NYC for 25+ years.
I asked him to write a chamber music piece for us using his real name, thus the trio. We loved playing it, along with all of his crazy PDQ stuff.
So glad you enjoyed your rendition of that "old chestnut."
Regards,
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2009-01-12 23:04
Larry, Nice of PS to bless the bass clarintet.....afterall, PS is/was a bassoonist himself....OR, as he calls it, "the singing stovepipe."
My favorite of his is Concerto for Horn and Hardart. Unforntunately, H&H went to that great automat in the sky.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: BflatNH
Date: 2009-01-13 01:48
Were I competent and had the opportunity, I would consider it a great (the greatest?) musical achievement for me to record for film score. Even more to compose.
In case any one's interested, KCSN.org plays 'classical' film score music on Fridays, 6 AM to 6 PM Pacific time. I've heard many a good clarinet part, including Emily B. Thanks for the heads up, JJM and others, I'll listen for you.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2009-01-13 13:32
John D. Moses wrote,
>I have recorded over 200 movie sound tracks over the past 25+ years here in NYC.
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...and named some. Thanks for that! I love it when movie credits name the performers. My editors don't let me gas on about the background music, beyond pointing it out when it's particularly noticible (excellent, horrible or interestingly weird), but when I'm researching a movie, it bugs me no end when everybody including the craft service truck driver gets a credit while the musicians remain anonymous.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2009-01-13 17:31
Hi Lelia:
"it bugs me no end when everybody including the craft service truck driver gets a credit while the musicians remain anonymous."
It bugs me too, and all of us who make movie soundtracks!
I've been writing and generally sounding the movie industry to get them to recognize our contribution to their films. So far my requests have fallen on deaf ears. Many times I insist on being listed, and it happens, but more often than not, we're just not there!
What to do?
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: BflatNH
Date: 2009-01-13 19:09
John J. Moses wrote:
> Many times I insist on
> being listed, and it happens, but more often than not, we're
> just not there!
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> What Ido?
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If the union is toothless, try inserting it in the contract. If your agent presents you with an agreement to sign, after you sign simply write in somewhere "screen credits..."(wording as appropriate) initial and date it (where you inserted it). Give it back for the other side to sign or see. Sometimes they won't bother to fight over an agreement which is otherwise finished. I think in most cases, it is now a part of the contract.
Good luck.
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Author: J. Usher
Date: 2009-01-13 22:42
While watching "Cars" with my two-year-old grandson, I was pleasantly surprised to see ALL of the musicians in the credits. I usually have to find out who played what by asking around.
Jim Kanter and Ralph Williams sounded great as usual...
-jon
Clarinet, Woodwind Methods, Music Ed.
CSUSB
San Bernardino, CA
jusher@csusb.edu
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Author: DougR
Date: 2009-01-14 01:45
John, I hadn't realized you were on the old PDQ stuff. Could that be you, I wonder, playing that haunting solo on slide music-stand, in the unforgettable PDQ Bach opera, Iphegenia in Brooklyn?
Now I have to go dig out all those old LPs and check!
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Author: Johnny Galaga
Date: 2009-01-14 04:07
Dang, I wish I could contribute something to this elite thread. I've always wondered whose the best player on this forum.
Hey, who played the part in the Law And Order intro song?
Post Edited (2009-01-14 04:09)
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2009-01-15 04:48
Yes DougR, I recorded all those old CDs of PDQ Bach with Peter in the 1980s & 1990s. Some very fun sessions! It was very difficult not to laugh at a funny moment during an important "take" at many of Peter's sessions.
Another point which might be helpful to note on this thread:
Most of the hundreds of CDs (and old LPs) I've recorded over the past 30+ years, have, in fact, mentioned my name in the liner notes. Very different than the movie music people!
The contracts are quite different, and the sessions are much more personal, more one on one. Please note BflatNH, there are no "agents" on either of these recording dates, only music contractors, who hire you by phone or email. We have very little control of our musical product, but when I get a chance, I always ask for the players to be listed in the credits. We do not have contract to sign or negotiate either, so we cannot ask for any special provisions which might include our names or instruments. We are not hired as individual "artists", but rather, as a group of session recording musicians.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2009-01-15 17:17
News flash...!
I was just sent this "ArtistDirect Site" from a former student.
The site lists many artist's CDs and Movies, really neat!
Many of my movies & CDs are listed, but there are mistakes. I don't play the Trumpet or Guitar, sorry. Where did they get that info???
Here's the link:
http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/music/artist/credits/0,,470708,00.html
Enjoy looking up your favorite clarinet player...
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
Post Edited (2009-01-15 17:26)
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Author: William
Date: 2009-01-16 14:57
JJM--"I don't play the Trumpet"
You see, JJM, that's where all of us clarinet players really went wrong when our band directors asked us, "What instrument do you like" (or something to that effect). We were all young and didn't know any better. Ever notice that they never have to sit in front of themselves in the pit? Or that they are usually the third person leaving the gig--just behind the conductor and the keyboardist?? No need to swab & wipe or worry about leaving the warmed instrument in a cold vehical overnight. Never a worry about the reed drying out or not having one at all??? And only having to coordinate three fingers (six possible combinations) with their tongue vs our nine over worked digits (often in awkward positions) with 1000s of possible combinations???? No need to "speed" tongue either--just double or triple tongue it (easy, btw, on any brass instrument). No "swabbed to death" trumpets here. Instrument knocked over by careless patron or other musician--no broken joints,keys or cracks to pin here, just pound the dents out and keep on playing. And if you drop your mouthpiece, no chipped beaks or rails, just pick it up and jam it back in the leadpipe. Never a problem with projection to the back rows--you'r easily heard even on the 50 yrd line of most NFL venues. And no need to hire a mule train to carry your instruments to the next gig (Effer, A, Bb, C, maybe even D, Bass, ContraBass and then double saxs, flutes and sometimes, the kazzoo). Just throw your Bb, C and perhaps a piccolo in your gig bag and still be third off the stand after the gig--even if you also have a couple of mutes lying about.
I'll tell you, JJM, that in my next life it's the trumpet for me. In fact, I'm tempted--anyone want to trade a truckload of woodwind instruments plus assorted accessories for a Bach Strad Bb & C?? (just kidding, Mark)
[I actually do play trumpet well enough for 2nd or 3d parts, but still keep trying to play all the clarinets, saxs, flutes & rarely, but sometimes, the kazzoo--I don't know why]
Post Edited (2009-01-16 15:01)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2009-01-16 15:08
William -
Just don't get into a conversation with a trumpet player about different mouthpiece rims, silver polish, tuning slide grease, valve springs, lead pipes, valve oil, double cases, etc..., etc...,etc... ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
...GBK
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Author: William
Date: 2009-01-16 15:21
LOL, GBK, and cold sores, cardiac stress, low & high chops, etc, etc, etc.
[but still........]
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2009-01-16 15:32
>>You see, JJM, that's where all of us clarinet players really went wrong when our band directors asked us, "What instrument do you like" (or something to that effect). We were all young and didn't know any better.>>
Or else we're old enough to remember when the grade school band director didn't know any better. When asked that question in 1957, my first choice of instrument was trumpet.
"Girls don't play the trumpet."
Okay, then drums.
"Girls don't play drums."
What do girls play?
Flute? Forget it! So....
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2009-01-16 20:28
Personally, I was thrilled to be called a "trumpet player", and my kids thought it was neat to be listed as a "guitar player" on the other credits. Hey, the more horns the better!
But, for just the record, I DO NOT play the Trumpet or Guitar.
Thanks,
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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