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Author: dtclarinet ★2017
Date: 2009-01-07 15:59
I posted some thoughts on double tonguing at my blog. You can see the post at http://blog.davidhthomas.net/2008/12/double-tonguing-on-clarinet
I also linked to some other articles on the subject, namely Clark Fobes' and Dave Pino's.
I find it amazing that few clarinetists double tongue, mostly the big soloists, who have to now with composers writing for that kind of speed. I began playing around with it years ago, but finally committed to learning it about 6 months ago.
Thought the voicing is very tricky in the upper altissimo on up, it's not undoable, and my playing has improved in general from the attempts, since a soft throat, required for double tonguing, is also critical to any style of playing.
David Thomas
Principal Clarinetist
Columbus Symphony Orchestra
Blog- TheBuzzingReed.com
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Author: pelo_ensortijado
Date: 2009-01-07 16:12
havent seen your blog, but i will shure look into it since ive seen robert springs warmupvideo on yooutube. really amazing stuff.
and your eperience that the general playing improves because of the throatrelaxation seems to me like a strong argument for everyone to practise it!
thanks for a good an encouraging post!
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2009-01-07 16:51
Neat blog site.
Bookmark worthy.
Allan
(warning to the guy who posted about signatures.....there is one below this post...you have been warned).
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: William
Date: 2009-01-07 17:36
Allen, your "signiture" is with an advertisment which I am perfectly OK with so long as it is sanctioned by MC. However, thanks for the warning.......
DT--I also began learning double tonguing--more or less, on the job as an orchestral clarinetist--when it became a reality that I could not single tongue fast enough to keep up. Curiously, I first learned to double tongue on the trumpet and it transferred fairly easy to the single reed. Triple tonguing as well. BTW, do you ta-ka or use the flip method that John Bruce-Yeh prefers? The "flip" works better in the upper clarion.
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Author: JessKateDD
Date: 2009-01-07 23:35
I'd love to hear some samples of your double tonguing. It sounds like you're still working out the kinks with the upper clarion, but perhaps you could record that Saint-Saens excerpt. That is a very tricky passage - the timing is as hard as the actual speed, from my experience.
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2009-01-08 11:21
I didn't think this was possible on clarinet until I asked Rebecca Rischin about how she was able to tongue so quickly. "Oh, I double-tongue everything," she replied matter-of-factly.
It is frustrating - how do you maintain tone production on the "kuh" ?
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Author: pelo_ensortijado
Date: 2009-01-08 13:11
with a great deal of airsupport and a really relaxed... far-in-the-back-of-the-mouth which i dont know what its called.
now what is this flipmethod you talked about? have never heard of it.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2009-01-08 13:22
People may be referring to the method that Pino describes.
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Author: William
Date: 2009-01-08 14:08
The "flip" method is when the tongue actually passes over the tip of the mouthpiece on the up stroke and then re-articulates as it passes over again on the down stroke. Up, down, up down, etc over the tip of the mouthpiece. Sounds as if it would damage the tip of the reed, but if done carefully, it does not harm it in any way.
And once again, John Bruce-Yeh, Grammy Award winning assistant principal clarinetist with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, told me he uses this method--specifically in his recording of the Neilson Concerto--because the ta-ka style doesn't work well in the upper register for him.
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Author: pelo_ensortijado
Date: 2009-01-08 17:59
ive tried that one just now. really strange feeling, but with some practise it should work. it a bit different in sound but could be cool as an effect sometimes!
tnx!!
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