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Author: Jonathan6593
Date: 2009-01-04 23:56
Hello,
I have a great passion for music and have a great feel for clarinet playing. Being a clarinet player for 4 years, I feel that my love and dedication towards the clarinet is high. Though I love the clarinet, I do not think that I will go to college for a music major, but rather one in the sciences.
This being said, I am thinking of upgrading my leaky, student model, Arley 17S clarinet to either a Buffet E11 or Jupiter 931S.
It came down to these two clarinets because the Buffet E11 has been recommended to my by many coaches and clarinetists I've known, and the Jupiter 931S was recommended to me by the clerk.
Before I thought that Buffet and Yamaha were the brand to buy from. Now, Leblanc, Selmer and Jupiter have caught my eye. The only problem is, there is no music store around me that sells Selmers and Leblancs at a student price. And Yamaha is a little too expensive for me. ( Yamaha 650 )
I've heard that the key set on the E11 needed to be altered for comfort and that the tone is inconsistent throughout the three ranges. Also, it is pitched at A 442, but I don't think that will be a problem with a 66mm Chadash. On the other hand, I don't know very much about the Parisienne Jupiter 931S.
So if there is any one out there who can compare the two and give me their choice on the better clarinet, that would be much appreciated.
Cheers!
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2009-01-05 00:14
If you can, try both. It sounds like both are at your local music store.
btw, the Yamaha 450 is more of the level of the E11 and is quite good. (I own a YCL-450)
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-01-05 00:59
Or you could get a nice used Evette (earlier versions like the Evette & Schaeffer Master Model) which are superior to the current production, and can be had for less than $500 if you shop carefully.
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: Merlin_Williams
Date: 2009-01-05 04:45
The Jupiter 931 I have plays very well indeed.
I used it for the entire season at the Stratford Shakespeare Festival this year, as well as for A Chorus Line at the Canon Theatre in Toronto and for Oliver with Theatre Aquarius in Hamilton.
I use either a 65mm barrel by Pascal Veraquin of Montreal, or a 66mm cocobolo Euro style barrel by Orsi & Weir on my 931.
Disclaimer: I am a Jupiter Canada Artist/Clinician, but I'm not paid to use any of their products.
Jupiter Canada Artist/Clinician
Stratford Shakespeare Festival musician
Woodwind Doubling Channel Creator on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/WoodwindDoubling
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Author: Jonathan6593
Date: 2009-01-05 05:16
Merlin,
Do you think that there could be any improvements made to this model? Well, what I'm trying to say is, do you think that there are any outstanding flaws? What is its tone like? Warm and centered perhaps? How is the key work? Is it very resistant? Do you find that there are any set-backs that you had to get adjusted?
Thanks in advance !
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Author: Merlin_Williams
Date: 2009-01-05 13:16
Do you think that there could be any improvements made to this model? Well, what I'm trying to say is, do you think that there are any outstanding flaws? What is its tone like? Warm and centered perhaps? How is the key work? Is it very resistant? Do you find that there are any set-backs that you had to get adjusted?
I didn't do anything other than have my tech make sure everything was sealing well, and then selecting a better barrel. The stock barrel was too short for my purposes and mouthpiece choice.
FWIW, my 931 is one of the very first of the model. There have been some upgrades along the way. I know that the newer models have an adjustable thumbrest.
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Author: Krebs
Date: 2009-01-05 13:56
like you, i too am a new member to these forums. over the past few weeks, i have found the search button to be particularly useful.
one thing i noticed was consistent among threads asking about clarinets in the intermediate price range is many people have recommended the tom ridenour lyrique. i suggest before buying a new clarinet, you do like i did and make judicious use of the search button and compare ALL of your options. make sure you check out the lyrique, too. if you're an open minded person, you may be very happy with one. i have not played one, but like i said, in all my searches, the lyrique always seems to generate quite a positive buzz.
Post Edited (2009-01-05 13:59)
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2009-01-08 00:06
Let's face it..the E11 is a laminate clarinet with terrible intonation faults. I have yet to use one that is acceptable in terms of pitch and tone. For students and intermediate players it may be fine...I use mine for outdoor concerts when it rains.
The Jupiter clarinets are pretty nice..even the Jupiter 931S I tried for a student had a good tone and decent tuning..so I say Jupiter is above the E11 but a landslide!
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