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Author: ned
Date: 2009-01-04 04:18
David Spiegelthal states:
''Look at it this way: Whatever his motives may be, Allen is de facto using his star status as a movie producer to bring in paying customers, who might otherwise be paying to hear some other player who is less financially fortunate and probably a far better musician. I will side with GBK on this one. If Allen wants to play for free, more power to him. But when he plays a club for money, whether he realizes it or not (or cares), he's hurting someone else's livelihood.''
I assume you can read WA's mind when you mention motives. To me it seems to be a confusing sentence, firstly you write ''whatever his motives...'' then you go on to state categorically that WA is ''....de facto using his star status...''. In which way should one read this? Do you know his motives or are you guessing?
It is quite obvious that his 'star status' will draw in paying customers and what's wrong with that? I personally know a few people who know practically nothing at all about jazz and have attended his performances in this New York club in recent times. Perhaps they will have come out of the club with some newly acquired appreciation of the music, and will search out other bands to listen to and watch them perform a unique musical style. I have not met up with any of them lately to know their final impressions, but is not an unlikely eventuality for one or two of them to have been so inspired.
I believe that WA and his personal performances have been somewhat taken out of context, as New Orleans style jazz is more about ensemble playing rather than emphasising the soloist. Since my last posting I have viewed more Youtube videos and I would be confident in stating that the group is, collectively, extremely competent. It's not a note and pitch perfect classical ensemble by any means as it is not meant to be other than a swinging dance band and in this regards it succeeds admirably. It seems that WA is being singled out for attention unnecessarily.
I don't know the history of the New York job at all, but it's conceivable that WA secured the gig based on his perceived ability and star status and perhaps some notoriety even, who knows really? I don't know the facts, so enlighten me if you have some inside knowledge.
It's a long straw to draw I feel, for you to imagine ''he's hurting someone else's livelihood'' when the possibility exists that this particular band job may well have not been in the offing were it not for WA. How do you know he is taking work from another player? Is WA not enhancing the employment opportunities for his sidemen? Why do you think he should offer his services for free anyway - would you, were you in his position?
Clearly, many people listen to WA for a variety of reasons and surely some of those reasons are not necessarily for the music's sake - so what? It keeps this valid folk music in the public arena nonetheless and that is a good outcome.
I believe I detect some envy from a few of the correspondents to the post - in Australia we refer to this as the ''tall poppy syndrome''. There are almost limitless ways of playing a clarinet folks, ranging from the lofty note-perfect, thoroughly schooled variety to the simple, self taught, down-home variety - one is no better than another, so if you don't like his playing, then just don't listen.
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