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 Hypothetical Mozart concerto
Author: davyd 
Date:   2008-11-24 04:36

Some time ago during a rehearsal of the Mozart Oboe concerto in C, the conductor pointed out that the piece is actually Mozart's arrangement of his Flute concerto in D. He speculated that Mozart might have, if he'd lived long enough, further arranged the piece as a Clarinet concerto in Bb.

We all know Mozart did no such thing. But I'm wondering if maybe someone else did. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing, or played such a thing, whether a published arrangement or a homemade one?

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 Re: Hypothetical Mozart concerto
Author: davidsampson 
Date:   2008-11-24 04:56

I know there are published transpositions into Bb. Several, actually.

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 Re: Hypothetical Mozart concerto
Author: mrn 
Date:   2008-11-24 05:05

davyd wrote:

<<Some time ago during a rehearsal of the Mozart Oboe concerto in C, the conductor pointed out that the piece is actually Mozart's arrangement of his Flute concerto in D.>>

Really? I thought it was the other way around--I seem to remember reading somewhere that K. 314 was originally written for oboe and then when somebody later commissioned Mozart to write a flute concerto he simply arranged the existing oboe concerto for flute, transposing it up a key. I can't remember where I read that, though.

I've always liked it better as an oboe concerto.

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 Re: Hypothetical Mozart concerto
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2008-11-24 06:37

Wikipedia to the rescue!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oboe_Concerto_(Mozart)

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: Hypothetical Mozart concerto
Author: NorbertTheParrot 
Date:   2008-11-24 08:42

"Mozart might have, if he'd lived long enough, further arranged the piece as a Clarinet concerto"

Mozart wrote the Oboe concerto in 1777, and adapted it for flute in 1778.

Mozart died in 1791. He therefore had 13 years to make this arrangement, had he deemed it worthwhile.

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 Re: Hypothetical Mozart concerto
Author: davyd 
Date:   2008-11-25 02:25

"I know there are published transpositions into Bb. Several, actually."

I suspected there might be. I don't suppose anyone knows the arranger(s) and/or publisher(s)?

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 Re: Hypothetical Mozart concerto
Author: davidsampson 
Date:   2008-11-25 02:46

The one I have is published by the International Music Company, edited by Reginald Kell. It also has range adjustment. Catalogue no. 1878.

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 Re: Hypothetical Mozart concerto
Author: marshall 
Date:   2008-11-25 07:55

It was the other way around. K.314 was originally written for oboe and was then transcribed by Mozart for flute. The original score for oboe was lost for centuries. The original score wasn't found until recently (within the last three or four decades), which said oboe instead of flute, so it wasn't until (relatively) recently that it was assumed to be a flute concerto.

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 Re: Hypothetical Mozart concerto
Author: davyd 
Date:   2008-11-26 22:44

International 1878 is K. 622 in Bb. I'm speculating on the existence of K. 314 in that key, irregardless of whether it started out as an oboe or a flute piece.

To be sure, one could use the orchestra parts from the C version with the solo part from the D version.



Post Edited (2008-11-26 22:46)

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