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 Transposed violin music
Author: clariknight 
Date:   2008-11-21 00:01

I read an article on here about the ehtics of transposed music. It seems like it is commonly accepted, and thus I might like to play a violin piece for my senor recital. I however have two questions.

1. There seem to be things in violin music that would be close to impossible on clarinet. One in particular being the opening to Beethoven 'Kreutzer' sonata. How are parts like this (double string parts and chords) transposed? Does it coming out sounding ok?

2. What is the availability of transposed music. Would I have to do this part myself?

Thanks in advance for any help!

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 Re: Transposed violin music
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2008-11-21 00:43

Senior Recital? Ask your teacher if that is ok or not. Senior in High School probably yes, College probably no.

Certainly subject for debate though.

That aside, if there is a double stop you just arpeggiate the notes.

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 Re: Transposed violin music
Author: crnichols 
Date:   2008-11-21 01:28

In either instance (high school or college recital), that'll end up being your teacher's call (just as David said). In my opinion, I think transcriptions can be a wonderful way of improving your command of the instrument. We encounter different challenges when we perform transcriptions. The Prokofiev Flute Sonata and Schubert Arpeggione Sonata are two popular transcriptions that immediately come to mind.

If it's impossible or awkward sounding to arpeggiate the note as David mentioned, I'd carefully look at the contour of the phrase and pick the note(s) that would sound most fluid.

Christopher Nichols, D.M.A.
Assistant Professor of Clarinet
University of Delaware

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 Re: Transposed violin music
Author: Brenda 2017
Date:   2008-11-21 03:16

This was the interesting challenge we faced when we played the Schubert Trio for violin, cello and piano. I played the C clarinet so didn't have to transpose, but we invited a professional violinist friend of mine to come to rehearsal and she gave me some great tips on how to read the violin part. One tip was how to interpret the slurred but accented notes... what we clarinetists understand from that instruction is different from what a violinist is expected to understand. When deciding which of the notes to play, we'd listen to what the other instruments are playing to be sure the chord would be complete. I ended up not always playing the upper note. Also we decided that some of the notes would be played an octave lower... violins can sound sweet in the extreme high registers, not so much the clarinet.

The experience certainly added to my technical abilities since things didn't always fall under my fingers. I'd do it again, but will be thoughtful about which piece I'd play on clarinet. Some pieces lend themselves better than others do.

Our clarinet choir performed a transcription a couple of years ago of the final movement of the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto for solo clarinet and clarinet choir. I personally think that the violin is the superior choice for this piece, but it was a blast to prepare and perform it! And it turned out great because we had a professional clarinetist as our fantastic soloist.

It's just great fun to experiment and to reach out for other music, but it depends on your audience whether this is what you'd do for a specific occasion.



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 Re: Transposed violin music
Author: BobD 
Date:   2008-11-21 16:31

I must be missing something.
IF clariknight had the ability to sight transpose the violin sheet music I assume the question would strictly be: "Is this piece of music suitable for her recital?"
IF clariknight had the ability to transpose the violin sheet music and write it down for herself does this become not only a suitability question for her teacher but also a copyright problem?

IF the piece has already been transposed AND transcribed for clarinet and is available for purchase as sheet music what's the problem....if any?

Bob Draznik

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 Re: Transposed violin music
Author: clariknight 
Date:   2008-11-21 19:10

Ahem...his recital...

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 Re: Transposed violin music
Author: clariknight 
Date:   2008-11-21 19:11

But on another note, thanks for the advice. I will definitely consult my teacher on each piece of music I would like to play, so the same will go for any sort of transposed piece. For reference I am a senior in high school, not college. Not sure what the difference in suitability really is there though.

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 Re: Transposed violin music
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2008-11-21 22:24

Interestingly, my favorite bassoonist just did a transcription of a cello piece for a recital. She spent a great deal of time selecting which of the notes in the double stops to play on the bassoon.

OH, and if you transpose, it is good form to retain the concert key --so that your colleagues don't have to know the piece in two different keys.

Bob Phillips

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