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Author: Frank
Date: 2000-10-01 23:58
Can anyone give a aesthetic comparison between these two barrels? I KNOW I need a new barrel, but I'm not sure which would be better, and I don't have hundreds of dollars to help me find out.
Thanks,
Frank
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2000-10-02 01:14
You can search detailed discussion on this matter in Klarinet archive. There are few people who tried both. It might be Moenig darker and Chadash more briliant.
I personally like my Chadash, which I bought with my mouthpiece from Greg Smith.It might be another factor to check what effect reaming of mouthpiece and barrel.
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Author: Aaron Diestel
Date: 2000-10-02 01:22
Frank,
I will try to give/explain to you my experience with these two barrels considering that I have recently switched from the Moennig to the Cadash. Both are good barrels, however they differ greatly. (Keep in mind this comes from playing on an R-13 Bb)
The Moennig, compared to the standard Buffet barrel, gives a more mellow, open tone. A problem for me is that with good breath support the moennig restricts the freeness of the tone. The tone becomes spread and unfocoused. The tone overall is for the most part thin, without warmth and liveliness.
The Cadash barrel compared to the standard barrel is a more focoused, centered tone. It adds a good resistance to direct and guide the tone. The tone with the cadash can be a little brighter then the moennig, but the tone ois livelier. The tone at any volume has direction, fullness and center. The tone does not spread when good force is placed behind the air stream. A wonderful ringiness (if there is such a word) is present when playing on this barrel. A sence of a 3 dementional tone is brought to life.
These are just my own personal experiences on these barrels. I play on the cadash now on my Bb and A. I feel that the Cadash barrel allows little to no compensation of embeshure and breath support. With the moennig some compensation in playing is needed. Making playing, in a way, more work. Where with the cadash playing is made easier because of not having to compensate for various deficencies caused by the moennig barrel.
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Author: bob gardner
Date: 2000-10-03 00:53
I believe that either IMS or WW&B would ship both to you and let you test them for yourself.
If you do this remind them to get on board and become a sponser of this great org.
Bob
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2000-10-03 20:17
Frank -
Both the Moenig and the Chadash barrels are better than the stock Buffet barrels. However, there is so much variation among them that there's no way to tell which will play better on your instrument. If you simply order one, what you get is something with some tinkering to make it better than stock, but it's still a crapshoot.
Far beter is to go to Chadash (Moennig being dead) and have him custom match a barrel to your mouthpiece and instrument. He's an excellent player and could probably do it by playing your setup himself, but if you're anywhere near New York it's best to go to him directly.
An equally good possibility is, as mentioned above, to go to Greg Smith and get a mouthpiece and barrel custom matched by a member of the Chicago Symphony.
Have fun. There's no end to tweaking.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Ken Rasmussen
Date: 2000-10-04 01:52
I went from a standard Buffet barrel to a Moenig on my R13 about 8 years ago. The improvement was astonishing. I got a lot more resistance, which gave a more focused sound, more dynamic range, and better intonation. That said, I haven't tried the other barrel, and I'm an intermediate, not an expert player.
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