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 loose screw
Author: spencer prewitt 
Date:   2000-09-26 22:28

i have recently purchased a new R-13 and they screw on the top section that holds the bridge key and the bottom section of rings for the top resister has been falling out continullay no matter how many times i tightn it it still falls out or almost every time i play please tell me how to keep it in there plus my teacher dosent really like that it falls out during my lessons so i need to get it fixed pronto!! thanks in advance

spencer

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Pam 
Date:   2000-09-26 22:53

Why not try the obvious -- a service person authorized to work on Buffet's? That would be my choice.

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2000-09-27 00:14

Especially since its new and under warrantee!

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 RE: loose screw
Author: ron b. 
Date:   2000-09-27 00:43

Take it back to the store's shop. Pronto!
ron b.

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Ron D 
Date:   2000-09-27 01:26

There is a product sold in hardware stores called locktite that is used to secure screws. It's a substance that solidifies in the absence of oxygen. The screws can be removed after treatment with minimal force, but it should keep errant screws in place. A small bottle costs only a few dollars and is wonderfull for keeping screws set in eyeglass frames.
haveing said that I agree with the others and suggest that you take it back to the store you purchased it from. The problem may not be as simple as reseting the screw and a good technician can be of great assistance.

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Nate Zeien 
Date:   2000-09-27 04:55

I recommend that you take no corrective actions, except for tightening the screw as needed. The point isn't whether or not you can fix it, but rather if you should have to or not. Since you recently bought the instrument new, I would say that it should be the responsibility of the seller. This is not usually a serious problem to fix, and after all, what is a warranty for? Go ahead and bring it in to a qualified repair tech. They might even be able to fix it in 5-10 minutes. Even if it takes longer, you shouldn't have to pay anything. Good luck. -- Nate Zeien

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Brent 
Date:   2000-09-27 12:00

If you choose to go the loctite method (yes, the brand name is spelled that way) BE CAREFUL to get a thread locker (such as 242) and not super glue. Loctite makes a number of different products and some of them will permanently bond the screw to the post. I don't think you want that...

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 RE: loose screw
Author: spencer prewitt 
Date:   2000-09-27 13:49

well i would like to thank everybody for the great advise and i would love to have the repair tech fix it but a traveling salesman comes to out school and recently quit and it seems that we cant get one to come and i was just wondering if there are temporary means of fixing it until i can get a trained professional to fix it it sounds like all i can do is to keep my screwdriver handy.

thanks a lot everyone

spencer

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2000-09-27 14:01

Spencer - where did you <b>buy</b> the clarinet from? Take it back there before you loose the screw - even if you have to make a special trip. You have a warrantee - use it. Overtightening the screw can cause more damage, and if you don't have exactly the right screwdriver then you may bung up the screwhead.

If it wasn't under warrantee I'd say something different, but since it is - treat it like a car. When a new car gets a squeek or rattle, we take it in to get it fixed right away - and sometimes they notice other little things and fix them, too.

Wish it was so easy to get rid of squeeks on the clarinet ...

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 RE: loose screw
Author: spencer prewitt 
Date:   2000-09-27 14:07

me too i think that i am going to do that i will have our band director call the company and tell them to get down here i havent had good luck with them before with my mouthpiece hunt witch took the entire summer but my teacher who didnt want to but in finally got my a B 46 witch i love howevery they wasted my precious time in taking soooo long but this time that isnt going to happen i am getting somthing done pronto!!


thanks all

spencer

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Nate Zeien 
Date:   2000-09-27 15:35

Wow, a whole summer to find a B46? This is a fairly common mouthpiece. You can order out of catologs and get it faster! Here's an idea you may be able to use. It's crude, but it works. You can take some masking tape and put it on the post over the head of the screw. Be careful not to get any tape in between the post and the key, this could gum up the key after a while. Also be careful to choose a tape that won't harm the finish or get the post sticky (duct tape is horrible). It's crude, and I'd hate to use it on an R-13 if at all avoidable; but it works. -- Nate Zeien

P.S. -- I think it's warranty, not warrantee. :-)

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2000-09-27 16:01

Nate Zeien wrote:
>
> P.S. -- I think it's warranty, not warrantee. :-)

Depends. Warrantee is the person to whom a warranty is given.

I used it in the improper sense above, though.

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Al 
Date:   2000-09-27 16:46


Everything about going back to the source is sound advice.
You can, however, put a SMALL AMOUNT of Elmer's Glue on the threads of the screw. This will allow you to play without worring until you get it back to the seller. Elmer's Glue will not permanently lock up anything.
Others have used a SMALL BIT of thread (similar to the tape idea) on the screw threads but by all means, get it back to the responsible source.

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Nate Zeien 
Date:   2000-09-28 05:07

The Elmer's glue should work well, but be careful with it. It won't hurt anything, but it may gunk up the key, or become a pain for the repair tech. -- Nate Zeien

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 RE: loose screw
Author: mark weinstein 
Date:   2000-09-28 05:07

There are two Pivot screws which hold the long, long bar (in the U/J) which involves (in part) the bridge key on the Buffet. (they work in tandem with each other from the front post and a rear post) C'mon experts .... lets hear from you. Mark is correct NOT to overtighten.

The only glue to be used is what is referred to as thread-locking ... re: Loctite and Loktite brands (and there is a Locktite brand too!)

(John knows this like the back of his hand.)
mw

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 RE: loose screw
Author: Nate Zeien 
Date:   2000-09-28 05:08

The Elmer's glue should work well, but be careful with it. It won't hurt anything, but it may gunk up the key, or become a pain for the repair tech. -- Nate Zeien

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 Oops!
Author: Nate Zeien 
Date:   2000-09-28 05:11

Oops! I guess the double message prevention isn't as reliable when two messages are sent at once. My bad. -- Nate Zeien

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 RE: Oops!
Author: Ken Shaw 
Date:   2000-09-28 19:13

Psst -- it's "squeak"

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 RE: Oops!
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2000-09-28 19:39

Ken - please don't continue what Nate started.

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