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Author: janlynn
Date: 2008-08-29 12:20
thank you for the responses on my tempo question.
I was working on the piece this morning and i think one of the problems is the triplets. I'm fine until then. I cant seem to play them at the same speed as the rest of the piece, it sounds frantic and uneven.
suggestions?
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Author: Nessie1
Date: 2008-08-29 13:46
Well, as your previous post asked about speed, this may be a clue to the answer, if you don't mind me putting it this way; With any piece, you need to make sure that you don't start faster than you can play the hardest bits. In this case the triplets are the fastest notes in the piece and they involve crossing the break, so it's no good setting a speed where you are not going to be able to manage them.
However, to achieve fluency, you need to practice the runs slowly in small, overlapping sections. Some of the triplets go straight up a scale whereas others go up-down around a note (if you see what I mean). These are going to be the more difficult patches. If you do regular practice of this kind. targetting these areas for a few days, I think you will find that the triplet bits quickly get more fluent. As this happens and you get more confident, I think that you will find that the "frantic" feeling disappears.
Forgive me if some of this is already second nature to you but it is what occurs to me and I hope it helps.
Vanessa.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-08-29 14:04
Have you got a LH Ab/Eb lever?
If not, you'll either have to slide your RH pinky from the Eb to Db to free your LH pinky for the Ab that follows (all on the 2nd page of that mvmt.), or use the XXO|XXO fingering for the Ab. This Eb-Db-Ab fingering pattern crops up twice in the 2nd mvmt, although you have more time to think about this as they're not in the triplet runs.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2008-08-29 14:06)
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2008-08-29 14:18
Adding to Nessie's advice:
Find a tempo (with metronome) at which you can play the triplets perfectly (either in entirety or fragmented as suggested above). Repeat at least 3 times. The number of times you repeat is proportional to how quickly you want to be done with the problem...the more you want to be done, the more repeats you do...5, 7,9.
Increase metronome by 2-4 bpm.
Repeat perfection.
Increase metronome by 2-4 bpm.
Repeat perfection.
Etc....until you achieve the desired speed.
If you find a "ceiling"...a speed at which you cannot play perfectly: STOP. Slow the metronome down, repeat perfection again, and then move on in your practice to something else.
If you start at speed X on the first day. Start at speed X + 2 on the second day, +2 more on the third day, until you achieve desired speed.
This is the most basic process of increasing technique/speed.
Good Luck!
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-08-29 14:41
People play this movement at various tempos, some much to fast in my opinion. Choose a reasonable tempo that you can play it well. Some players slow down a little when you come to the middle section, with the big skips, and then pick it up again when the theme returns. You can do that if you don’t over do it. As long as your not playing it for a competition it’s better to play it perfectly clean and musically in a slightly slower tempo than to play it sloppy but fast. ESP www.peabody.jhu.edu/457 Listen to a little Mozart
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
Post Edited (2008-08-29 14:57)
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Author: janlynn
Date: 2008-08-29 21:39
im home from work. going to get started with your suggestions after i post this.
thank you.
i hope to some day play it in a little recital. no competition or anything.
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Author: janlynn
Date: 2008-09-01 15:51
thanks again peoples. i am slowly making progress. up to 85 from 80. i'm going to keep working on it.
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Author: marshall
Date: 2008-09-02 02:07
As far as metronome work goes...what I like to do is start at a tempo, move it up a few clicks, move in back a couple, up a few...etc. EX. I'll start at 60 or 80 (depending on what it is) and play it perfectly three times. Then I'll move it up three metronome marks and play it perfectly once. Then I'll move it back two metronome marks, play it perfectly three tiems. Move it up three marks, play it perfectly once, down two, perfectly three times, up three...etc. This works really well for both getting the tempo up and cleaning your piece. It's nice because, using this method, I find I tend to have to do a lot less cleaning later down the road. It's also really useful for memorizing, since you end up having to play the part a LOT to get it to your desired tempo.
I dunno, it works for me. It takes a while and can be tedious, but it works well for a lot of people.
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