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 saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: janlynn 
Date:   2008-08-28 18:04

what is the recommended tempo?

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 Re: saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2008-08-28 18:16

Whatever you can play it well at.

Not more. I've heard it painfully slow from some top players.

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 Re: saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: janlynn 
Date:   2008-08-28 18:29

o-kay my teacher said 100 then changed her mind and said 90 but i can only do it at about 80 or so. is that too slow?

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 Re: saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2008-08-28 18:41

Personally I feel that 80 is too slow, but there are recordings where the player does take it that speed.....


I like it at 116, but wouldn't have a non-performance major play it that quickly.

Main thing is that it has to be even, musical, and controlled sounding. It shouldn't sound frantic, or labored at all.

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 Re: saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: Kevin 
Date:   2008-08-28 20:04

I find Paul Meyer's recording of the movement to be a fine example of blazing fast speed without comprising the musicality. Something to strive for.

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 Re: saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: claritoot26 
Date:   2008-08-28 21:05

I have handwritten in my part 108-112 from when I did a senior recital several years ago. I wouldn't go faster than that, and certainly not faster than you can play it well. 80 seems a little slow to my taste for performance speed, but a good place to start to work it up to tempo. have fun, it's a jaunty little tune.

Lori

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 Re: saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: Allegremente 
Date:   2008-08-28 22:51

I play it at 108, a nice little brisk walk through the countryside.

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 Re: saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: Brenda 2017
Date:   2008-08-29 01:42

Same here, I performed it at around 105-108. This way if it's articulated cleanly then it's bright and cheerful. A nice contrast with the next movement.

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 Re: saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: Tobin 
Date:   2008-08-29 03:32

There is a beautiful progression through all the movements of the Saint-Saens. Wonderful piece.

I haven't hear the Meyer...but I do have the Morales...it's remarkable that the character isn't lost for the speed of the performance.

James

Gnothi Seauton

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 Re: saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: Nessie1 
Date:   2008-08-29 08:12

I'm not going to quote a metronome mark but I do have a vivid memory from years ago when I first learnt this piece which I have always borne in mind when I have gone back to it and I think it may help.

My teacher, who presumably did not think I had got much of an idea of what the style of the piece from my first playing of it in a lesson after looking at it at home, said to me "What kind of a dance is in 4/4 and starts at the half bar?" I had enough general music knowledge to answer "A gavotte." Ever since then I have always seen this movement as poised and elegant - actually, that's another thing, she wrote "Eleganza" at the top of my copy too.

I don't meant that it should be painfully slow or anything but it is not a frantic rush like the semiquavers in the last movement.

I think it's important that the staccato arpeggios and the big swinging repeated intervals should be really light and most of the dynamics should be quite moderate.

I am also very interested by James's comment above that there is a progression through the movements as this is what I began to think when I was working on the piece for a summer school this year (Hi to all the guys who were in Liverpool if you're reading this). In particular, I think that the fourth movement, which seems quite fragmented at first, may have a lot more references to the previous movements than the obvious variation on parts of the first movement and, of course, the return to the first movement material at the very end.

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 Re: saint saens sonata mvt.2
Author: Morrigan 
Date:   2008-08-29 11:38

Have a listen to my recording as a suggestion for tempo:

myspace.com/timieraci

I can't remember what I took it at, or if a conscious decision was ever made about tempo; I just played it as I felt it.

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