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Author: CarlT
Date: 2008-08-18 01:02
I had a bit of trouble finding Tom from the above link. Iceland was just one letter off, I believe it's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MBpL-h2dfk
Pretty good one, too.
CarlT
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Author: clariknight
Date: 2008-08-18 01:57
I'm thoroughly impressed. If only this system didn't cost as much as three and a half boxes of reeds. Definitely something to look into for the future though when there's a little bit more money in the pocket.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-08-18 03:02
Hi all, Remember the quote “you can’t polish a turd. You can fix just about any reed but you’re not going to make a good reed from a poor piece of cane. I’m not putting Tom’s tool down, I own one myself and use it occasionally but I do the same thing he did with a reed knife and a piece of sand paper (eyes wide opened though). Sometimes I find it easier to use the tool to make a reed softer instead of sand paper, which is what is on the tool, it’s sandpaper on his well-designed plastic block. What he did was to make a hard stuffy reed softer by taking off from the sides and the center of the reed. Making it softer made it freer so it played better. I think if you’re not handy with a reed knife and don’t like reed rush or using sand paper free hand this is for you and well worth the price if you can save a couple of reeds a box. Just don’t expect to make a really good reed if the cane is not good to start with. You can always make a reed play better but to make it sound beautiful and feel good too you need to have the quality cane first. You can’t change the grain, only the balance. By the way, I only paid $26 for mine a few years ago.
ESP www.peabody.jhu.edu/457 A Little Mozart
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Author: GBK
Date: 2008-08-18 03:02
I use the ATG system daily/weekly along with the Vandoren reed wand (which I REALLY like) but never thought about using it without looking, so I just tried adjusting a balky reed which had potential using the ATG system in a dark room with the lights off.
The reed still came out great...
Yup... its practically fool proof... GBK (who often plays the fool)
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2008-08-18 07:00
"The white sheet on his head is just wrong..... "
slightly ironic/amusing though. he did it in jest so there was no harm done. =)
what i'm confused about is the sanding device preshaped? he seemed to just attack the rails on the first go, and the tip/heart on the second go, but all with the same amount of pressure as he did it. that's kind of why i was hesitant about the system's workability.
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2008-08-18 08:32
>> slightly ironic/amusing though. he did it in jest so there was no harm done.
Not really. It's especially bad since it's clear what he means by terrorists and that's obviously NOT the association from the white sheet, but instead something much more domestic (for him). Other than that, it's not completely clear he is blindfold. I'm not saying he isn't, but he could have made it clearer that he is blindfold by using something that won't have that horrible (and really not funny) joke.... The bottom is open and he can look down and see.
But assuming he is blindfold.... I'm not sure what this system is. It's unclear from the clip if it's anything more than a small block with sand paper (or similar) on it. How is that different than just using sand paper (blindfolded or not)? I guess it's not the same but there is nowhere I could find with any info on what it actually is (including his website).
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Author: BobD
Date: 2008-08-18 11:56
Great inventions and discoveries appear to be "so easy" after the fact.
Bob Draznik
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Author: BobD
Date: 2008-08-18 15:14
So, now I think I know why Tom has become William. I don't recall this clip being in the DVD that came with my package, so perhaps it was done shortly after 2000 and was removed from the "Director's Cut". Yes, he did "write the book" and he improves with age.
Bob Draznik
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Author: William
Date: 2008-08-19 14:59
I wonder if the reed Tom "worked" on was made from a quality blank on his Reedual or if it was a stock reed out of the box--like one those new individually wrapped V12s (which I still hate, btw).
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Author: BobD
Date: 2008-08-19 17:51
You can't believe everything you hear......or see.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-08-20 00:55
I'm a bit surprised that Tom is lowering himself to make a video like this to sell his product. I'm not questioning his honesty, just his wisdom. ESP
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2008-08-20 15:42
The ATG system is apparantly selling well. Why does he want to turn himself into a clown? Maybe he could call himself Tommy the Masked Wonder, (he makes good reeds appear from nowhere).
Still don't let his tastelessness put you off...the ATG system is great!
Clarinet Redux
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Author: Ryder
Date: 2008-08-20 17:23
I don't get it... where is all this nosense about his towel mask coming from? If I am right about what I think some of you guys are reffering to, and based on a youtube comment, most likely (I could be wrong though), he had NO intention of making any sort of terrible joke out of the mask he made. Although he did joke about looking like a 'terrorist' the mask was just a towel w/ a safety pin in it. it will naturally create that odd shape. Maybe he just didn't realize what emotions it may stir up in people. I thought the video was great. He is good in videos about not stumbling around in his speech. He's obviously very good at communicating, both in person and through a video. watch the others he made. Anyways, there is no need to call his humor tasteless or insensitive as we do not know his original intentions.
I read here once that the the price is basically for the technique, not the equipment, but i don't see alot of technique happening, and you can print his reed testing method from his website. I do think the price is a little high for what's given to you. It kinda feels like they know we need it, so they know we'll pay dearly for it...just a saying. I'm sure though that in a pinch it would come in handy. for now i'll stick to my knife and sandpaper as i've found an effective system.
____________________
Ryder Naymik
San Antonio, Texas
"We pracice the way we want to perform, that way when we perform it's just like we practiced"
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Author: BobD
Date: 2008-08-20 21:40
"It kinda feels like they know we need it, so they know we'll pay dearly for it."
I strongly disagree, Mr. Ridenour is not that kind of businessman.
Lighten up gang it's only YouTube. There's more serious humour on TV.
Bob Draznik
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Author: GBK
Date: 2008-08-20 21:54
Ryder wrote:
> I do think the price is a little high for what's given to
> you. It kinda feels like they know we need it,
> so they know we'll pay dearly for it..
Like many of my students have done, nothing is stopping you from going into your local hardware store, buying a rounded sanded block, some spray adhesive and 600 grit sandpaper. Total cost? less than $10
Now the problem becomes how to use it effectively.
Without Tom's very clear instructions, or a teacher to help you, the sanding device will do you little good. How much is that knowledge worth to you?
Frankly, I think that with the right guidance, either with the Ridenour printed material, or a teacher, it is a very effective reed adjusting system...GBK
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Author: susieray
Date: 2008-08-20 22:29
The price is not high at all; it's right in the ballpark of what you'd expect to pay for any instructional DVD and book.
It's actually priceless if you ask me.
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