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 concertino speed??
Author: nes 
Date:   2008-08-13 06:45

Hi there,

My recital which is to be performed very soon, includes a piece of which there is a movement I do not know the speed of. i should have figured this out earlier..

Concertino for Clarinet by Matyas Seiber. (Hungarian composer, interesting..)

Movement 4 "Recitativo" . On the score I have a marking of minum=120, but I, and others, including my teacher, believe this is wrong. besides the tempo recordings take it at is far from minum=120. There is no way a recitative style piece could be marked at that tempo??

Can someone please comment on this?? Do oyu know the tempo? Even though the tempo will fluctuate in a recitative piece, Surely, the speed is not minum=120??

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 Re: concertino speed??
Author: NorbertTheParrot 
Date:   2008-08-13 07:32

"Hungarian composer, interesting.."

Born in Hungary, but not really a Hungarian. He was Jewish rather than an ethnic Hungarian; he moved to Germany as a young man and then to England.

Seiber can be considered an English composer in the same sense that Handel is (by the English, anyway).

To turn to your question, may I point out that Thea King recorded it, and the 2002 reissue of the recording is available from amazon.co.uk.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Works-for-Clarinet-and-Orchestra/dp/B000063TSV

If you go to:

http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/tw.asp?w=W613

you will find track timings; the 4th movement takes 2:55.

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 Re: concertino speed??
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2008-08-13 13:10

If your score is marked "minum" (half-note) = 120, it is an error. In my copy of the Seiber, the fifth movement, Finale, is marked "Allegro" with a half note "cca 120." The fourth movement, Recitativo, however, is marked eighth note "cca 120." That seems about right to me.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: concertino speed??
Author: nes 
Date:   2008-08-13 13:13

Jack, thank you!

My editions has minum "cca 120" , the Recitativo mvt. Both recordings I have heard go far far slower than minum=120. So your edition has 4th mvt at quaver=120? And, what is your edition?

A misprint obviously, but in EVERY copy of the edition I'm using..??

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 Re: concertino speed??
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2008-08-13 13:49

Yes, quaver cca 120, marked both in the solo part and the piano accompaniment. My edition is Schott (ED 10341). I expect Schott is the only publisher. I don't know how long ago my copy was printed but it was at least several years ago (I paid US$12 for the piano reduction and the list price is now US$19.95 at Luyben and SheetMusicPlus). It is apparently, however, a "new" printing where Schott corrected the error. I can say that because, inside the cover of the piano part, along with the solo part I purchased, I just found a photocopy that I made in the late 1970s of an older printing. It is marked minum cca 120, as yours is.

Best regards,
jnk

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