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Author: Matt Locker
Date: 2000-09-13 17:20
Would anyone care to compare the playing/tone characteristics of the following clarinets:
Selmer CL210
Buffet E11
Buffet E12
Yamaha YCL34
Yamaha YCL52
Leblanc Noblet 45
Leblanc Noblet Millenium
generic Leblanc Noblet (looking at a used horn too!)
I would like any feedback that you may have on these horns.
Thanks,
Matt
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Author: Matt Locker
Date: 2000-09-14 22:09
FWIW, I don't live in an area with many music stores and am unable to "test drive" a multitude of horns. I have played a Selmer CL210 and liked it, and owned a Buffet many moons ago and have good memories of that. I've never played a Leblanc nor a Yamaha and am curious how they compare. I'm curious about the effects of the larger bore of the Leblanc as compared to the other clarinets I'm considering.
So, please feel free to voice your opinions here.
Thanks,
Matt
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2000-09-15 14:00
Matt - I would suggest that very few of us might have had experience with even most of your listed [intermediate-quality?] horns. I can only speak about a few myself, over quite a time frame, so that memory is uncertain. I am sure several of our busy repairers can and will contribute, but I generally recall my impressions of the best [expensive wood] cl's I've had opportunity to play, LeBlanc in particular, Selmers and Buffets, no "top" Yamahas as yet. While somewhat different, I liked them all and would be happy with any! You might read Lee Gibson's "Clarinet Acoustics" for his highly "scientific" conclusions. Don
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Author: Matt Locker
Date: 2000-09-18 13:09
Don:
Thanks for the reply. I realize that most people have limited opportunity to experience many horns, but personal experience on even one of the horns would be appreciated. I'm particularly interested in the difference between LeBlanc (seems to be a large bore clarinet) and Selmer (which is a much smaller bore).
I'm currently thinking I will probably purchase either the Buffer E11 or the Selmer CL210.
Matt
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Author: Dee
Date: 2000-09-18 22:36
Matt Locker wrote:
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Don:
Thanks for the reply. I realize that most people have limited opportunity to experience many horns, but personal experience on even one of the horns would be appreciated. I'm particularly interested in the difference between LeBlanc (seems to be a large bore clarinet) and Selmer (which is a much smaller bore).
I'm currently thinking I will probably purchase either the Buffer E11 or the Selmer CL210.
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Actually if you look through Leblancs technical data, you will find that they make both large and small bore clarinets. The majority of the new designs are small bore.
Selmer stuck with large bores longer than other makers but now they have variety in their line up too.
You can no longer classify one maker as large bore and the other as small.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2000-09-19 02:32
Dee says it well, as usual. Lee Gibson in "Clarinet Acoustics" lists the bore characteristics of a number of cl's , mainly the more-pro horns. With the tapered bores, poly cyl. etc, I [at least] can no longer simply describe them as large, medium or small. Most of my experience is with LeBlanc's of "nominal" 14.8+ mm bores. I have [one] and have worked on Evettes [Schaffer] which are very good [for me] also, some have said a good E-S is a Buffet R13 under a diff. name!! I have a "big bore" Selmer [1952 vintage] and have worked on a 15.0 mm LeBlanc [same? as the Pete F model], they played easily, maybe more loudly??, making me feel like playing a Dixie or Miller chorus or so!! A very good friend has been playing Sel Recitals, now a Signature and is greatly pleased, sounds great to me! Verbose as usual?? Don
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2000-09-19 15:04
Matt - There is some more info re: bore sizes and sound character in the above thread "German ----" Rene. Don
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Author: Matt Locker
Date: 2000-09-19 17:49
Thanks, Dee and Don, for the input. I will try to find a copy of the book that Don has referred to.
Matt
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