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Author: musica
Date: 2008-06-25 22:01
Wanted our bass clarinet player to have a part in this..... would it be practical
to have him use the string bass/contra part?
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2008-06-25 22:18
To be honest, no. The part is for contra bassoon or bass tuba, though i've only every done it once with the tuba. The contra adds the 12 foot bass that is needed for this piece, the bass clt on the other hand won't. Why don't you look at the two Symphonies for 16 players? You'll need a C clt, basset horn and bass clt as well as the two Bb/A parts.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-06-25 22:22
No, No, No. Please don't. He will be in the wrong octave. The bass clarinet plays an octave higher then the contra or string bass. He could double the second bassoon part if you must use him-her. ESP
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Post Edited (2014-10-10 21:12)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2008-06-25 22:48
I've played it with contrabassoon and also with bass tuba. Either will work, but the contrabassoon, to my ears, sounds correct
If you try to use the bass clarinet to cover the contrabassoon/bass tuba part the voicing will be wrong.
BTW - The string bass (if used at all) is ONLY scored to play the last 4 notes of the entire piece.
Don't believe me? Check the score.
...GBK
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Author: marmer
Date: 2014-10-10 19:53
The idea that the double bass is called for in just the last few measures is a common misconception, even perpetuated by Norman Del Mar. Substitution of double bass for contrabassoon in wind ensembles has a long tradition because of the lack of flexibility of older contrabassoons and contra bassoonists. Even though the bass is less powerful it is more flexible and if played sensitively is a very good blend with bassoons and clarinets. Strauss must have been aware of this even if it is not spelled out in the score. The E-flats at the end are merely an ossia to avoid tuning down because the lowest note on the standard four-string double bass is E-natural. Many modern bassists have the extension that goes down to C, so the written low E-flat is no problem for them.
If this part is played on tuba, it must be played an octave lower than written.
For todays advanced players, the part is practical if demanding for contrabassoon, tuba, or double bass.
Post Edited (2014-10-10 19:54)
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2014-10-10 22:14
cigleris wrote:
>> The contra adds the 12 foot bass that is needed for this piece, the bass clt on the other hand won't.>>
16 foot.
Tony
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