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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-06-06 14:04
Can anyone recommend any recordings of chamber or solo works with Gino Cioffi?
I searched "Gino Cioffi" on Amazon, but only got three hits (two being the same recording of Beethoven's 3rd), though none of which are available.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2008-06-06 15:11)
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Author: crnichols
Date: 2008-06-06 14:51
There are a few Boston Symphony Chamber Players recordings of him available. They were never updated to CD unfortunately, but I have the LPs. Contact me offline about this.
Christopher Nichols, D.M.A.
Assistant Professor of Clarinet
University of Delaware
Post Edited (2008-06-06 14:52)
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Author: Keith P
Date: 2008-06-06 15:43
If you find any Boston Symphony Orchestra recording with Charles Munch conducting, it is Gino Cioffi playing. There are tons of these recordings on itunes and I am sure the actual CDs are available online. I have Schubert 8-9 and Symphony Fantastique as well as Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun with him playing; excellent recordings!
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-06-06 16:39
It was the recording of the Dvorak 'Cello Concerto (BSO/Munch/Piatigorsky)that made me take notice of Gino Cioffi (after I asked who was the principal clarinettist on here a while back).
When I heard the 2nd mvmt. of this version when it was played on the radio, the opening section was just something else so I had to buy a copy (coupled with the 8th symphony). Gets me all choked even just thinking about it - such sweet playing from Gino on this recording which I rate up there with the Berlin Phil recordings (with Rostropovich as the soloist), though I'd like to hear even more of his playing in any context just to hear what he does.
As I understand from the replies I got last time I enquired about the BSO clarinet section, the clarinet section at that particular time were all of Italian origin and Selmer players.
Here's part of an email I got from a former pupil of Gino's:
"Gino was really a character - I don't think there will ever be another quite like him. One recording you won't here is him playing the Mozart with the BSO. He recorded it with them, and I had the great good fortune of listening to it on his reel-to-reel tape recorder at his summer home near Tanglewood. The BSO producers gave him a copy of the master tape. Even after hearing him on so many occasions, that recording brought a lot of emotion to me - even though I know that emotions are evoked through technical playing. He was still upset, many years after the fact, that the BSO chose to put out the Mozart with Benny Goodman playing."
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: ChrisArcand
Date: 2008-06-07 06:15
I have a few very old recordings with Gino Cioffi - Some of them quintets, Till Eulgenspiegel (pardon spelling). I also have a few recordings with Munch and the BSO that I'm sure have him playing. My former instructor's teacher, talked about very highly. Contact off the board...
ca
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Author: LarryBocaner ★2017
Date: 2008-06-07 13:31
"As I understand from the replies I got last time I enquired about the BSO clarinet section, the clarinet section at that particular time were all of Italian origin and Selmer players."
Close, but no cigar: Manuel "Manny" Valerio, the excellent second clarinetist, was of Portuguese extraction.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-06-07 14:46
Thanks everyone. I'll be in contact with you in due course, and once I get broadband I'll be able to watch the YouTube clips much better.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2008-06-09 01:12
Cioffi also made a great chamber recording of the Hindemith quintet on RCA which is hard to find. He stuck it out pretty good with that old crab Leinsdorf too...
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Author: S. Friedland
Date: 2008-06-09 02:33
David, I was a Fromm Fellow in Tanglewood when Leinsdorf was the conductor of the BSO and I played for him several times. He was exacting to a considerable extent, but I didn't find him any crabbier than any other conductor. Well, maybe a little.
Sherman Friedland
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-06-13 10:12
Anyone know what the general quality is like on this DVD? (apologies if it's the same as the YouTube clips linked above, only my computer is v-e-r-y s-l-o-w at downloading them):
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Charles-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-REGION/dp/630928570X/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1213350955&sr=8-13
More to the point, how much of Gino Cioffi is featured on it?
I get really *****d off when there's an important solo going on in a piece, yet the camera (or whoever is in the control room) decides to pay all attention to the string players resting, the back of the conductor's head or even the ceiling of the concert hall for the duration.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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