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 difference between yamaha 20 and 250?
Author: nancyr 
Date:   2008-05-31 04:01

Can anyone tell me the difference between these models? I gather the 20 is older, but is there any other difference?

Thanks!

nancyr

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 Re: difference between yamaha 20 and 250?
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2008-05-31 04:23

The bore is very different. The 250 plays quite well.

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 Re: difference between yamaha 20 and 250?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2008-05-31 06:01

The YCL-20 has the better keywork and build quality.

I think the YCL-20 is based on a Selmer design - either the Series 9 or Series 10. I've got an old YCL-24 and it's fairly similar to a Series 9 (and use it instead of my Selmers when playing outdoors).

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2008-05-31 06:31)

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 Re: difference between yamaha 20 and 250?
Author: nancyr 
Date:   2008-06-06 16:59

Thank you both!

One more question.. do they both have the alternate bridge key design to avoid damage during assemby? Thank you all so much!

nancyr

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 Re: difference between yamaha 20 and 250?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2008-06-06 17:49

The YCL-20 has the ramp on the lower joint ring keys (like a Selmer) and the newer Yamahas (26II right up to the 250) have the ramp on the upper part (like a Buffet).

Provided the top joint rings are held closed during assembly, you won't have the risk of the linkage getting bent or the cork being broken off during assembly. Both bridge key designs are just as good as each other.

One thing that can be done to prevent this happening is to have a small piece of cork glued to the underside of the top joint linkage (not on the end, but further back where the bend is, by the C#/G# arm) to keep the top joint part of the bridge key link raised enough so the lower joint link can glide under it.

But this cork stopper has to be of such a thickness that it isn't reducing the venting of the top joint LH2 ring key at all, and also not making any contact with the joint when the joints are assembled (there should be a tiny gap between the cork stopper and the joint surface), but keeping the link raised enough to allow for easy assembly.

I like to fit this kind of cork stopper to standard Boehm system clarinets as a matter of course as it stops the top joint LH2 ring key opening up too far (and clattering against the joint) when the joints are seperated.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2008-06-06 18:15)

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 Re: difference between yamaha 20 and 250?
Author: S. Friedland 
Date:   2008-06-09 02:24

Can you describe the bore,how it is "very"different, its measurements, and what you mean by "it plays quite well'?



Post Edited (2008-06-09 02:25)

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