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Author: Laur
Date: 2000-09-03 05:13
Is anyone here working on " 30 Caprices by Cavallini " ? If so.. what is your general opinion on them ?
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Author: philipp
Date: 2000-09-03 11:25
hi Laur,
I like the Cavallini... you can practice that italian quality you often need in that kind of music. But I think you have to be a little selective. Numbers 13, 16, 17, 21, 22, 24, 25, 30 are fine though.
Cheers
Philipp
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Author: 'nifer
Date: 2000-09-03 17:36
hi! I think the cavalinni are great but the numbers are hard to go by because every publisher has them printed in a different order, so numbers are not the best thing to go by for these etudes.. They are also great to practice fingering agility!
'nifer
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Author: Robin
Date: 2000-09-04 12:19
Yes. I am also a fan, and agree that some are better than others.
Try to make them operatic. I think it is 22 which reads as a whole lot of different characters coming on an off the stage! Remember, they are not studies, as so many people think, and a great deal of care needs to be taken in "Italian phrasing". Also, from memory, many of the editorial markings as regards articulations in my edition (Fischer, I think) were quite impractical and quite different from earlier editions. My advice so far as articulation goes is to do whatever is musical and practical. But make sure you have fun with them, and don't afraid to go over the top (nearly).
Rob.
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Author: Tim2
Date: 2000-09-05 01:55
These Cavallini are wonderful caprices. Mine are in op and number order. These are, as Robin says to make them, operatic. Cavallini was a clarinetist in the opera orchestra that Verdi composed and conducted for. Cavallini's life revolved around playing for the opera.
Knowing that, the most important thing that can be learned or developed from these Caprices is phrasing, beautiful phrasing. To "sing" each one as an opera singer should be part of the goal. Granted, there is a lot of technique. I hear someone like Marilyn Horne singing op 5 #4 with that big smile of hers and knowing that this one is going to be a light excursion into the fun of technique. (With even a coda at the end to go faster and play it with pinash, with joy, with beauty.
But even with all those notes, The phrase is most important. Make each one a precious thing of beauty; a work of art. Sing them, like a rich voiced singer, such as Marilyn or Beverly Sills, and I would put a coloratura tenor if I new one.
There is a great amount of endurance that is to be gained from these. Each one can be a test of your stamina. Build it!
But most of all, with emotion these must be played, that emotion that so many identify as an Italian tradition.
My favorites are the above, op5 #4, along with op 1 #6 and op 2 #4. (and op 1 #4). But they are all wonderful.
Enjoy working with these. I can't say enough about the good things that can be gotten from these Caprices that can be appied to all clarinet playing. Work any, some of these and you will be a better clarinetist for it.
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Author: HAT
Date: 2000-09-05 15:23
philipp wrote:
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hi Laur,
I like the Cavallini... you can practice that italian quality you often need in that kind of music. But I think you have to be a little selective. Numbers 13, 16, 17, 21, 22, 24, 25, 30 are fine though.
Cheers
Philipp
Just an aside, I recently recorded #25 for a cd of music by clarinetist composers. Not released yet. Will try to let you know when it is available.
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Author: rsimmons
Date: 2000-09-07 03:36
The Cavllini etudes are crap, useless musically, but great for technique and showmanship .
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Author: Robin
Date: 2000-09-07 13:04
rsimmons- You sound as if you should steer clear of opera, and maybe get a sense of humour while you're at it.
The Cavallini caprices are not exactly deep and meaningful, but they offer a valuable insight into a style of playing (virtuoso Italian), and of compostition (grand operatic gestures). You are really limiting yourself if you seriously maintain that they are "musically useless".
P-lease.
Rob
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Author: Evan
Date: 2000-09-10 02:36
Robin,
It is obvious that you are an excellent player, and we should awe in your ability to recognize the seemingly beautiful cavallini pieces as musically useless crap. Thnankyou so much, I hope to be able to someday understand music as well as you do and display so convinceingly the musicality, or lack there of, of acclaimed works
Evan
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Author: Robin
Date: 2000-09-10 07:03
No, Evan, you've got me all wrong.
I love Cavallini! I was defending them not criticising them. It was rsimmons who said they were "musically crap". I think they are wonderfully musical pieces. And there's no need to get personal and sarcastic in your criticism of me. I'm no star player, and find the Cavallini caprices very very challenging. I have no problem with people who don't like the pieces - that's up to them. I firmly believe that these pieces are far too frequently played very boringly. They come to life when the player can get the notes and make something of them (beautiful phrasing etc). I have never played them well!
Go easy, Evan,
Rob
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