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Author: jen
Date: 2000-08-28 19:33
Does anyone know how long these rests are for? One looks like the roman numeral I and the other looks like the roman numeral II on it's side. Thanks if you can help me.
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Author: S.Koumas
Date: 2000-08-28 22:48
Hi,
one sounds like a Quaver rest and the other sounds like a Semi-Quaver rest! (I think)
I would try and explain it, but i'd probably confuse you more, so i'll leave it up to the experts! Ok!
Sorry! :-)
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Author: Jill B.
Date: 2000-08-29 01:23
Hey, I don't really have anything to say about the rests, I was just wondering if this is Jen Swanson??? If so (or even if it's not) post a message and tell me K'
~JILL~
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Author: Eoin McAuley
Date: 2000-08-29 07:33
I think the roman numeral I on its side is a breve rest. A breve is twice the length of a semibreve, so for you Americans, it is two whole notes long. This rest is often used to mean a whole bar's rest, and with a number over it, it means a number of bars rest, for example, the rest with 23 over it means 23 bars rest.
I don't know what the II on its side means.
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Author: Eoin McAuley
Date: 2000-08-29 12:51
Are you sure you are talking about rests here? I think the thing that looks like a roman numeral II on its side is a note, not a rest. It is a breve, or double whole note.
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Author: Willie
Date: 2000-08-30 04:15
By your description,I believe Eoin is right about the double whole note. Where I've seen it the most though is in church hymnals at the end of the piece.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2000-08-30 14:36
jen wrote:
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Does anyone know how long these rests are for? One looks like the roman numeral I and the other looks like the roman numeral II on it's side. Thanks if you can help me.
jen -
What I think you mean by the roman numeral I is a solid black vertical stripe that fills in the entire space between the 3rd and 4th staff lines, like a whole rest and a half rest that join in the middle. Strictly speaking, that indicates a rest lasting two whole notes. However, it is often used to indicate a full bar's rest, no matter how long the bar is.
The roman numeral II on its side is a breve, which is twice the length of a whole note. The word "breve" means "short," which may seem odd when it's longer than the longest familiar note, the whole note (also called the semi-breve, meaning "half-short"). However, in old music, the note values used were much larger than they are today. The breve was the shortest note ordinarily used. The next longer note, twice the length of the breve, was the "longa," which looked like the breve with a stem added. The next one, twice as long again, was the "maxima," was like a longa except the body was stretched out horizontally to twice its width.
If you play or sing Renaissance music, you will often see this type of notation, though it's usually shortened (usually by a factor of 8) in modern editions.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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