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Author: davidsampson
Date: 2008-03-29 23:35
I have not yet started applying to colleges, but I have started looking at them. Currently my plan is to double major in Computer Science (or perhaps Physics/Math/Engineering/something like that) and Clarinet Performance. What would be a good school to do both at? I have some ideas, but most of them I do not know anything about the clarinet professor there. Some I have thought about are (roughly in order of interest):
Columbia
NYU
Rochester (Eastman is good, but how about the prof?)
USC
Caltech
Carnegie-Mellon
Penn
UCal-Berkeley
Stanford
Boston College
Illinois @ Urbana-Champaign
Indiana
Alabama (fall back school, as its in my home state. Plus I know the professor.)
Of these, which would be best to do both, irrespective of location/money/other mitigating factors at this point? What else should I think about?
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2008-03-29 23:43
If you're doubling, keep in mind that you'll be there longer. If you're on full scholarship with a stipend, it doesn't matter so much. If you're paying out of pocket, it adds up real fast. Some of the bigger and/or more prestigious schools, I've heard, also frown on people taking a long time to graduate.
I doubled in computer science and music composition at Cal State U Long Beach. Great departments in both (music especially, and they just got a big endowment), and the tuition is currently about $3000/yr in-state (pricier if you're from further away). It took me 7 years, with a very light last semester. Would have been 5-6 for performance.
Stanford and Berkeley aren't performance schools. They offer undergrad degrees (either in performance or in general music, I forget). The atmosphere is more academic, research based. If that's what you're looking for, cool. It came as a shock to me when I was scouting out grad schools last fall.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: davidsampson
Date: 2008-03-29 23:54
Thanks for the info about Cal and Stanford. Right now I am ignoring money as a factor, because its simply impossible for me to estimate what I can get in scholarships. I guess I am asking for what school would be best for me to shoot for. Plus, I am not guaranteed to get into the school of my choosing to begin with.
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2008-03-30 01:46
No inside info here, but I do know of an enormously talented violinist who is double majoring in performance and computers at Indiana.
Susan
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-03-30 02:06
May I suggest Peabody-Hopkins, not two bad schools. I've had several double majors in the past, and several were computer science. I have to worn you though, it's tough to do both degrees like that a have time to practice too. You also have to rate very high at your addition to be accepted because admissions knows how difficult it is to do both. ESP
www.peabody.jhu.edu/457
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Author: tnclarinetist
Date: 2008-03-30 03:54
Actually, it's not so hard to double major these days. With a competitive field such as music performance, schools are realizing the need for a stronger core program to ensure the success of students because many ultimately choose not to follow a music career. I'm double majoring in Performance and Arts Management, and minoring in Global Black Studies; while it's not a picnic, there's still time to relax and practice ardently. I do need the occasional Starbucks to get things going though  .
I have a few friends at USC and Indiana who are doing the same, and they seem to enjoy it.
Take a look at the Bard Conservatory. It's a new program, and it actually requires its music students to major in another academic area.
NG
Post Edited (2008-03-30 03:59)
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Author: davidsampson
Date: 2008-03-30 16:16
Ed: What is/are the clarinet professor(s) like at Peabody? Johns Hopkins is a good school, I should have thought of that :-). Thanks for the heads up.
tnclarinetist: Does Bard have a CS program? It looks like a liberal arts college/
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Author: tdinap
Date: 2008-03-30 16:28
I originally wrote a post of novel-like length for this topic, but for some reason my internet connection won't allow me to post it. One thing I can say quickly, though, is that you shouldn't completely rule out liberal arts colleges. For example, I'm at Dartmouth, and we have quite a good CS program, and the other sciences are not bad either. It might be a slightly less intense environment in some departments, but the advantage of a small liberal arts school is it's often much easier to get to know your professors, get involved in research, etc. (We don't have a performance major, though--those are sometimes hard to find in smaller schools.)
Tom
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Author: Bradley
Date: 2008-03-31 03:53
I'm at McGill in Montreal and many students here do double majors and double degrees. It's not as defined as say an Oberlin double degree, but it's still fairly common. McGill is a fairly good music school, and has been one of the best science/math institutions in the world for a long time.
www.mcgill.ca
Bradley
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Author: Dan Oberlin ★2017
Date: 2008-03-31 21:04
Florida State University has an excellent clarinet studio with Professors Frank
Kowalsky and Deborah Bish. Two of the undergraduates there are also getting majors in mathematics. One of these, at least, will finish both degrees (likely without getting anything below an A) in four years. And one of the graduate assistants in clarinet also has a math degree.
D.O.
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Author: Jkelly32562
Date: 2008-03-31 21:29
If you should choose to remain instate check this out!
<music.troy.edu>
<www.soundofthesouth.org>
Troy University has a wonderful CS program, and the best Music ED department in the state. They don't offer a Performance degree, but a performance degree really limits your market of jobs. A lot of out of work performance degrees. With education, you would still have to major in an instrument with a private instructor, and at a smaller school you work with a professor not a graduate assistant. The clarinet prof at Troy is Dr. Tim Phillips, I think his DMA is from the university illinois Urbana champagne.
Jonathan Kelly
jkelly32562@troy.edu
Post Edited (2008-03-31 22:04)
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Author: Bradley
Date: 2008-03-31 21:59
I apologize, I misread your original post, but now I see that you already have your list of possible schools figured out. Having never attended any of them, I don't think I can help you, sorry!
Bradley
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Author: tnclarinetist
Date: 2008-03-31 22:13
Yes, Bard's Conservatory site is listed as bard.edu/conservatory. It's quite rigorous... there's a pre-screening and in order to advance you must be accepted by the liberal arts school first.
NG
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