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 knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: Ebclarinet1 
Date:   2008-03-26 15:16

I was trained to make and fix reeds as an oboist and we always use a knife for this purpose but in the "single reed world" everyone seems to use sandpaper and reed rush.

Lately I've given up the reed rush in favor of one of my oboe reed knives and I like the control of this MUCH better than the reed rush. Haven't used it on the back side to smooth as I think the sandpaper is easier but there seems to be no inherent reason that the knife wouldn't be as effective there too.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any comments on this.

Eefer guy

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2008-03-26 15:23

I always used a knife for everything when I made reeds. Only used rush once or twice. I only used sand paper on the vamp for the final touches. For the back I used a big single cut bastard file.

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2008-03-26 15:50

I used a knife for everything for many years until I got the Reed wizard and ATG system.

Now I only use it to flatten the back if needed.

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


Post Edited (2008-03-26 22:43)

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: redwine 
Date:   2008-03-26 15:51

Hello,

Reed Wizard all the way, with 1200 grit sandpaper on glass for polishing the back.

Ben Redwine, DMA
owner, RJ Music Group
Assistant Professor, The Catholic University of America
Selmer Paris artist
www.rjmusicgroup.com
www.redwinejazz.com
www.reedwizard.com



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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2008-03-26 16:02

Keith Stein loved rush and taught his students to use it. Also, and it grew wild at Interlochen, so it was free and easy to get. I never liked it much - too imprecise - and the commercial packages are way overpriced, so I quit using it.

I mostly use a knife, but for the final finish, I often put the reed on a piece of glass and even out and polish the vamp with a thoroughly worn strip of 600 grit sandpaper.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: feadog79 
Date:   2008-03-26 16:30

I second the ATG system. I used a knife and sandpaper for a long time until I tried the ATG system, and I get much better results now.

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2008-03-26 17:20

Ironically, I use the Vandoren reed glass with the ATG system onstage. The ATG needs a flat surface, and the one it comes with us huge. The Vandoren glass is the perfect and portable size.

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: Dileep Gangolli 
Date:   2008-03-26 19:15

What is the the ATG system?

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: GBK 
Date:   2008-03-26 20:04

Dileep Gangolli wrote:

> What is the the ATG system?



The archives (via the Search link) are only 2 clicks away [wink] ...GBK

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2008-03-26 22:25

I agree, you have much more control with a reed knife because you can see exactly where you’re beginning and ending your scraping. I do use sand paper for the underneath of the reed to seal and flatten the reed if necessary. I love the Reed Wizard to balance the middle of the vamp but I use the knife to balance to tip. I teach all my students to use a knife and reed clipper. ESP
www.peabody.jhu.edu/457

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: skennedy 
Date:   2008-03-27 06:54

30 micron paper from an auto supply house does wonders at polishing everywhere and flattening the back.

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: Ed 
Date:   2008-03-27 13:31

The ATG system:

http://www.ridenourclarinetproducts.com/ATG1.html

I like to use a knife for a lot of things. I use a bastard file to flatten the backs. I still use rush for some detail work.

Years ago, when asked about rush in a reed master class, Kal Opperman responded "It's great for people who don't know what they are doing, they can't do too much damage"

He could make a reed start to finish from tubes with an amazingly sharp knife.

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: Chris J 
Date:   2008-03-29 13:20

I've just gone through a new box of Alexander Classiques to play test. As per usual - 4 good, 5 stuffy and 1 plank.

But employing the Alexander reed finishing system - now 9 good and 1 suitable for practice. It works particularly well for those reeds that play OK at the top and bottom, but stuffy around the throat notes.

The best thing about this "system" is that it is free and safe!

Once the reed is on the mouthpiece and nice and moist, press the reed firmly with your thumb over the lower part of the mouthpiece window for about 3 seconds and then draw the thumb up the reed easing off pressure by the time you get to the top.

Go on, give it a go - no-ones watching!....

Click here to link to this on the Alexander web site


Chris

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 Re: knives vs. sandpaper/ reed rush
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2008-03-29 13:28

Bench grinder and blowtorch for me.

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