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 Setup question for Selmer Recital owners
Author: SamKaestner 
Date:   2008-03-13 22:42

I'm curious what kind of mouthpiece and barrel setup other Recital players are using.

I switched from an R13 to a recital about a year and a half ago. The instrument sounds fantastic and the pitch is excellent. I do find it pretty resistant, but have not found a mouthpiece / reed combo that I like the sound of while still being free blowing. Just curious what other people are using.

Thanks,
--Sam

Sam Kaestner
West Point Band Clarinetist
www.samkaestner.com

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 Re: Setup question for Selmer Recital owners
Author: hans 
Date:   2008-03-13 23:15

SamKaestner,

I bought my Recital nearly 20 years ago and have tried quite a few other mouthpieces over the years, but have not found a 'piece that works better for me than a Vandoren 5RV (not the Lyre), with an Optimum ligature (for its convenience, not for sound quality reasons), and a Legere synthetic reed.

At present my embouchure is still weak after dental implant surgery, which required time off from playing, and I am using a #2 reed - normally I use a 2 1/2.

Hans

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 Re: Setup question for Selmer Recital owners
Author: larryb 
Date:   2008-03-13 23:37

Hi Sam,

I have a Recital A clarinet and use a Greg Smith 1* mouthpiece with a Francois Louis ligature. Reeds are usually Vandoren V12 3.5. It's indeed lovely (and matches my Signature Bb just fine).

When I need to make quick switches between A and Bb clarinets, though, I use a sturdier Luyben ligature - it holds better when removing the mouthpiece. Plays nicely too.

I've been experimenting with Gigliotti #2 mouthpiece as a back up. It's different, but plays well on the Recital too. Less expensive than the Smith.



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 Re: Setup question for Selmer Recital owners
Author: Ken Mills 
Date:   2008-03-14 22:26

Sam; the Recital is "pretty resistant" because Selmer comes right out and says that they prefer the sound emmission of soft reeds. Look at how the diameter in the barrel is so much smaller than the bore above and below. This is one of the means to prevent the upper clarion register from sounding unruly. Because soft reeds are used, Selmers are also a bit higher pitched than the others. I am faster at tonguing with a soft reed on my Selmer CP-100 mpc, number 2 Vandorens, Vito V40 wide open clarinet, but I had to shorten the barrel.

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 Re: Setup question for Selmer Recital owners
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2008-03-15 15:41

Hi Sam, I don't use the Recital though I did buy a Bb Selmer Signature a few years back. Ricardo Morales played a Recital until he changed to the new Backun-Leblanc last year. He used anything but a soft reed. When I tried his set up a few years ago I could hardly sustain a tone for more then a few seconds. Your going to have to find the mouthpiece that works best for you not what works for someone else. If you've read some of my past answers you will know that I am big on what's good for one person doesn't not necessarily work for another. See if you can't try some of your colleague’s mouthpieces, go to the Vandoren store in NY City, order a variety of MP from some of the mail order stores to try or, if you're in Baltimore, give me a call and try some of the ones I have. I have about a dozen or more different mouthpieces I have my students try when we decide it's time for a change. (Sam did his undergraduate work with me, one of my finest students I might add) In any case, good luck with it. ESP
www.peabody.jhu.edu/457

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 Re: Setup question for Selmer Recital owners
Author: SamKaestner 
Date:   2008-03-17 13:46

Eddie,

Thanks for the answer. I've been switching around my setup for a while now, and can't seem to find anything that works on the recital. I really like the sound I'm getting, but there's no way I can make it through a long concert without having my embochure collapse. I may be headed back to Buffet. If you're at all curious, I'm playing a mouthpiece that Jimmy Yan made me with about a 1.04 tip opening. It's a great mouthpiece. I still use #4 V12 reeds. I never could get the Rue Lepics to work for me.

--Sam

Sam Kaestner
West Point Band Clarinetist
www.samkaestner.com

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 Re: Setup question for Selmer Recital owners
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2008-03-17 15:55

I played on Selmer Recitals until recently.
The Recital barrel is aprrox. 0.570 inch diameter.
An R13 barrel is c. 0.590 (stock)
The Recital is a shorter instrument with a commensurately shorter barrel.

The exit bore of most mouthpieces is nearly the same as the diameter of the R13 bore.
I think Selmer makes a series of mouthpieces that are meant to match, but I did not favor them.

Nevertheless, I found that most current production mouthpieces did fine with the Recital in terms of intonation.
Adding a small taper to the Recital barrel added some color (0.572 to 0.565 taper or thereabouts) without adding resistance and without changing the intonation.

FWIW I use(d) #4 reeds on the Recital and the R13 and use the same mouthpiece on both.

In summary, First and formost, the mouthpiece should suit YOU, and seconarily, the instrument. Just MHO


Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-





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 Re: Setup question for Selmer Recital owners
Author: Jkelly32562 
Date:   2008-03-17 19:28

Dear SamKaestner,


I have tried many. many mouthpieces, and I find my favorite to be a simple HS* Selmer mouthpiece. I do however have a new favorite reed, the Vandoren Rue 56's seem to be more consistent than the V12s, and a little more freeblowing.

Jonathan Kelly
jkelly32562@troy.edu

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