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Author: alanporter
Date: 2008-02-22 23:06
I hate it when you guys refer to a clarinet as a "horn". Please stop for my sanity's sake !!!
Alan
tiaroa@shaw.ca
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Author: blazian
Date: 2008-02-22 23:18
It's not my favorite reference to a clarinet either, but it doesn't bother me much. If you were a person who had to talk about or mention a clarinet constantly, would you rather use three syllables or one? I don't say it, but for many people it's a habit.
Besides, if you play the alto, maybe nobody will notice if you say "horn" instead of alto clarinet! ![[rotate]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley25.gif)
- Martin
Post Edited (2008-12-17 21:20)
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2008-02-22 23:20
lemme guess - if we say it again, you put a bucket over your head and we have to sing "And did those feet, in ancient time...", right? ![[tongue]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie6.gif)
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Ben
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-02-22 23:21
Please don't fret over it; it is a horn because you blow into it right? My old repairman, Murray Snyder of many years ago in NY, used to call it "the Stick", and then there’s always "licorice stick". Hey, it's still the greatest instrument in the world so who cares what's it called. I've heard it called a lot worse then a "horn" when played in the wrong hands, or mouth as the case may be. Relax and go blow your "clarinet"! ESP
www.peabody.jhu.edu/457
Edit: Many musicians call their instruments an Axe or a Horn not just clarinets. Many string players call them "Axes" and the term Licorice Stick is an old term back from the Benny Goodman days and before. Just thought I'd add this.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
Post Edited (2008-02-23 02:45)
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Author: seafaris
Date: 2008-02-22 23:55
What bothers me most is when my brother in law always calls it a Flute! I can't tell if he is joking or just ignorant. I have just settled on the later and ignore him! :-)
...Jim
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Author: LicoriceStick
Date: 2008-02-23 00:04
I had a pal in MSO who called his clarinet an "axe"!!!!!!!
Sheesh...
I prefer Licorice Stick! ![[cool]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/cool.gif)
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2008-02-23 00:58
thats another pet peeve, clarinet horns and eefer. its an Eb soprano clarinet!
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2008-02-23 01:22
It's really not a horn because it i s not conical in any way (except the bell).
A photographer friend of mine jokingly refers to all wind instruments as "flugel horns", because that is what is slightly senile grandmother always did.
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Author: clarijen
Date: 2008-02-23 02:13
I hate it too - seems to be an American thing to call every wind instrument a "horn", I've never heard it in Europe. However, I did have a teacher once who called it a "gob stick", or a "spit tube" or something like that...
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2008-02-23 02:17
I will make no changes in reference to my eefer, or my other axes, simply to alleviate the irritations of parties who desire to eliminate casual dialectical references to said horns, thank you very much!
As for licorice stick, I don't get the point of that term, as it is both highly irritating and longer than the term it replaces. Stop using it! ALL OF YOU!!!!
Could a truce perhaps be reached at which I agree to lay off your licorice stick if you agree to let me play my horn in peace? NEVARRRRR!!!!!!
(today's increased level of nuttiness brought to you by a minor headache I'm experiencing)
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2008-02-23 14:59
. . . also known as an eefer.
This discussion is reminiscent of a letter to a genealogy magazine 15 - 20 years ago by a lady writing about the open center hallway, from the front to the back of the house, a common feature on many older houses. The lady was truly serious in her objection to such a hallway being called a "dog trot".
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2008-02-23 15:14
" . . also known as an eefer."
ARGHHHH!!!!! grumble grumble*
morning everybody
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2008-02-23 15:39
Eefer I don't mind but effer is like fingernails on a blackboard. (Though, when one of those horns gets into the wrong hands/mouth, effer might be more appropriate at that!)
But it's great fun for playing songs like the Mozart Concerto. ![[right]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie8.gif)
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2008-02-23 16:03
We use a term equivalent to "kindling" here. That better?
("Kleinholz" - "Small wood", as in "small woodwinds" (flutes, clarinets) vs "large woodwinds" (saxes, bass woodwinds).
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Ben
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2008-02-23 16:32
And then there is "haut-bois" [FR for high wood, I believe] from which "oboe" was derieved [I've heard], so are there other "foreign words" more tolerable? Didn't our use of "horn" derive from cattle horns, and the Jewish Shofar, which are somewhat conical, not cylindrical [as cl's are] so wouldn't it be more appropriate for saxes? Also, "fagotto" , IT? for a bundle of sticks, = bassoon . AM Thots, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-02-24 13:10
Then there are people who refer to instruments as 'she'.
I call these people 't*****s'.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2008-02-24 14:13
Chris, if I'm not mistaken, all musical instruments is male, except for flutes and piccolos. Flutes are female and the gender of piccolos (like that of "Pat" on the old Saturday Night Live show) is yet to be determined.
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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2008-02-24 14:58
I don't get the fuss about the 'horn'.
Most of the stuff (or concept) we encounter in daily life have more than one name, whether they are correct or not.
If enough people use it,it should be accepted.
If you want to be very precise,even French horn(or any other horns) is not a 'horn'.
It is not made of an animal horn(any more).
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Author: Jesse
Date: 2008-02-24 16:50
A clarinet is female, at least in French: la clarinette, so I could understand if someone used "she" for a clarinet.
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2008-02-24 18:02
If you look up "horn" in the dictionary and you get past the initial defintions to the one pertinent to this conversation, it says "a wind instrument" once made of animal horn, but now of plastic, metal, or other substances. The clarinet is a horn.
The jazz nomenclature "axe" is linked to "shedding" a part. Go out to the wood shed and chop some wood (meaning practice). What do you chop wood with?? An axe.
I bought an eefer from a clarinetist in England...he called it the "shrieking twig". I thought that was hilariously appropriate!
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: ChrisArcand
Date: 2008-02-24 21:07
"I will make no changes in reference to my eefer, or my other axes, simply to alleviate the irritations of parties who desire to eliminate casual dialectical references to said horns"
Excellent!
CA
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