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 Mouthpiece
Author: Ryan K 
Date:   2008-02-17 00:57

I'm about to try to order mouthpieces for try-out purposes. I'm looking for ones similar to the Fobes CF+ and the Fobes Cicero 13. I'm ordering off Muncy Wind's website.
If anyone has any they think I should absolutely try out from that sites from other brands I'm unfamilar with (Pyne, lomax, etc) recommend them please. If the cuts aren't exactly the same, but personal experience is great recommned them too.

Thanks,


Ryan K

Ryan Karr
Dickinson College
Carlisle, PA

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Iceland clarinet 
Date:   2008-02-17 01:17

If you know what brand/maker you like then I think it's best to order direct from the maker as he can help you and he(wonder if there are any womens making hand craftet mouthpieces) will make sure that you get two different mouthpieces of the same model so you have better optisions. If you order from retailer then you don't know if you will get two pieces of the same model that are very similar. I've heard that Fobes mouthpieces are pretty free blowing so I would sucessed Grabner Kaspar 14. When I got two Kaspar 14 to try out I found one to be bit closer opening and with a little bit less projection. My teacher at that time plays on Buffet Tosca clarinet which have more resistance than my Festival but not as much resistance as RC or R13 and he would have choosen the other one which was more open. And the Kaspar 14 he was playing at that time was even more open than the ones I got and he likes that better. I think that it's very helpfull to offer each model with slight different opening like 1.065-1.08mm as the Kaspar 14 so the maker can work with you for the best result.

Hope this helps and good luck searching for the prefect mouthpiece.

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Tobin 
Date:   2008-02-17 01:33

Iceland Clarinet,

Clark Fobes is quite helpful answering inquiries, but he no longer sells his mouthpieces himself...you must go through a music store to buy his products.

That being said, I have auditioned his mouthpieces and like them very much. At the time, however, I did not feel they were an upgrade from the Grabner I was playing at the time.

(I currently play Greg Smith's mouthpieces, and just bought two hardwoods from him...both excellent!).

Ryan,

Iceland clarinet's advice is spot on the money! You should definitely try Fobes' mouthpieces, but leave time to try Walter Grabner's as well if you can!

James

Gnothi Seauton

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: C2thew 
Date:   2008-02-17 05:21

well it can't hurt to call the mouthpiece maker for a suggestion.

Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2008-02-17 13:55

I just completed a "tryout" of 5 closely-related mps from Ben Redwine, his Genusa Excellente, and happily selected one, fine-playing, free-blowing [I'm oldt !] fairly-wide tip, very good for most of my cls. Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2008-02-17 16:32

It’s impossible for someone to tell you what the best mouthpiece is for you. Everyone has his or her own likes and dislikes, physical traits and tone concepts. That’s why so many pros use different types of mouthpieces. If there was “a best one” every good player would be using it but that’s simply not the case. I teach the way my teacher, Leon Russianoff did when it comes to mouthpieces. I stock many different makes and models from a Morgan, which I use to Backuns, McClunes, Hawkin to a variety of Vandorens and several other makes and facings in between. If I like it I stock it for my students to try. Once a student finds what we both agree is the best one for them I have them, or I do it for them, order several of that type and choice the one they feel is the best because every mouthpiece of the same facing and manufacture plays somewhat differently. If there’s a store in your area that stocks several makes that would be a good place to begin. If not, order several different ones from different mail order stores and begin to make your selection. Most stores will only put a percentage of the price on your charge card until you make a decision. Another good way is to see what your friends use and try them to “eliminate” some brands and facings. There are so many out there it can be a difficult process. Good luck, ESP

www.peabody.jhu.edu/457

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Ed 
Date:   2008-02-17 20:01

I play the Fobes CF+ and like them very much. They are relatively free blowing. I have always felt that a free blowing mouthpiece is a good way to go. You can then put the resistance in the reed and tailor it how you like, rather than starting with resistance and having to work "against" the mouthpiece.

I have found these mouthpieces to have a very nice centered, ringing tone which projects nicely. If you prefer, you can try some of his more open facings, or a combination such as the 2L. Clark makes a great variety, so there are many to choose from.

As mentioned, you can contact Clark for suggestions and input. He is extremely helpful.

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: rtmyth 
Date:   2008-02-17 20:37

Try before buy. No two are alike, even so-called custom ones. Also, many have not been subjected to rigid quality control, which is most apparent in assymetry. A close visual check, with 3X magnification will show it up , particularly where the side rails meet the tip rail.

richard smith

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Ryder 
Date:   2008-02-18 05:55

I own a Fobes CF+ and love it. Its more closed like a Vandoren M-13 or M-13 lyre. I've tried the Lomax Chicago c5 which is similar to the CF series in terms of tip opening. The lomax and the Fobes are both really good, at least from my experiences. With the Fobes CF and CF+ you may need to experiment with your reeds i try to find reeds in the 4+ or even 4.5 range. I use Vandoren V-12 and 56 Lepic.

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2008-02-18 18:42

Try this: :)

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1997/05/000443.txt

Best regards,
jnk



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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Arnoldstang 
Date:   2008-02-18 19:09

Dr. Lacy's method looks very good to me , but it won't be too useful for mail order purchases.

Freelance woodwind performer

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