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Author: dfh
Date: 2008-02-07 17:42
Have any of you used the Backun bore oil on the inside of your clarinet? I can see that my Bb is getting dry, and I have this oil (that I've never used).... Or should I just make the trip to my repair guy? thanks!
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Author: dfh
Date: 2008-02-07 18:55
Got some with one of those fancy bells I don't play on anymore... (His directions include to make sure you shine it up before a big performance)
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2008-02-07 23:46
Keep your almond oil and oiling swabs in the frig. Helps keep the stuff from going bad. I always wondered if freezing it would be better.
A great teacher gives you answers to questions
you don't even know you should ask.
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Author: dfh
Date: 2008-02-08 02:04
Thanks for the info! It's way over a year old, so I will chuck it, but does that mean I can use the almond oil I have in my medicine cabinet on my clarinet bore!? That's awesome news. Just a light oil once a year or so is enough right? (I've been too broke to get the horns to the shop, just dealing with loud keys for a bit)
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2008-02-08 02:56
I'd oil my axe with Backun
if I thought I could handle the bill.
But even by saving 'till June
I'd not have the finances still.
His products are sweet, it is true;
there's no doubt that it's quality stuff --
aggressively marketed too...
but I say, "hey, enough is enough!"
GBK, the ball's in your court....
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Author: GBK
Date: 2008-02-08 03:49
Oil from Backun? Just in time.
I hear it's almond, mixed with some lime.
The effect of his pricing
Will be quite enticing
$10 a bottle? Sublime...
...GBK
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Author: BobD
Date: 2008-02-08 11:07
"goes bad after that."
But it's still OK. When you purchase Sweet Almond Oil commercially you never know how long it's been sitting around already. Although "bad" as far as scent is concerned I question if that means it's not OK for clarinet bore oiling purposes.
I've heard that some Scandanavians strain the olive oil from their sardines and use it.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Phat Cat
Date: 2008-02-08 11:53
And here I was, thinking that Backun Bore was some kind of exotic snake.
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Author: ABerry
Date: 2008-02-08 14:51
Dana,
Dr. Henderson makes a couple of great bore oils. Check out the Dr. Products, he is I believe a sponsor here...
Allan
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Author: Brenda ★2017
Date: 2008-02-09 02:17
What kind of bore oil is suggested for people who have nut allergies, like one of my students?
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2008-02-09 03:01
baby oil. mineral oil.
water
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: ABerry
Date: 2008-02-09 07:27
Brenda,
Check out the Dr.'s Products by Dr. Oma Henderson, he has two different bore oils, one of which is identical to the oil found in Grenadilla wood. I believe his bore oils are plant based, I'm not sure if they contain any nut oils. You could contact him.
I'm not sure baby or mineral oils are the best thing for a wooden clarinet, as both are petroleum based, they might do more hame than good...IMO.
Allan
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2008-02-09 11:24
Please do NOT use mineral oil on clarinets!!!
. There are reasons for this caveat, although it is ok to use Mineral oil on freshly made cutting boards (these are typically maple) to season them, as well as to season new metal fry pans.
I do NOT favor liberal use of oil, but recommend DoctorsProducts oil (bore or Grenadoil) for when it is absolutely necessary. I know that Mr Backun favors a more liberal approach to oiling.
Disclaimer: I make and sell barrels.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: dgclarinet
Date: 2008-02-09 15:35
I always feel so left out when I read these topics (also the "never eat before you play..brush your teeth etc", "how many hours a day do you practice?" threads), but I've never touched bore oil to my horn in 42 years of playing. This is just one of those issues that the two camps are so adamant in their feelings. Maybe I'll try some of the Doctor's Oil, just to see what it's about.
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Author: susieray
Date: 2008-02-09 17:07
Dickson,
A friend of mine, who is also the local band instrument tech, bought his R13 new in 1962 and has never oiled it once. The horn is just fine.
Sue
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Author: Mabelline
Date: 2008-02-11 01:01
Hooooooooooooeeeeeeeeee!
This here's my first post so I probly otter tell you a little 'bout mysef. I play second clairnet in the Orchestra of the Hills and also free-lance with some local jug bands.
All this talk about bacon oil (BTW, you guys shore do spel fony) done give me a powrful appetite so I fried me up a mess of bacon this mornin'. I have to admit I never thought about usin' the grease to oil my clairnet. I mean it's got all that gritty stuff in it. But I figgered y'all knowed what you was talkin' 'bout so I decided to try it. To get rid of the grit, which might clog my keys, I strained the oil through a used coffee filter. Actually, I left the coffee grounds in 'cause I figgered that would add some of them there "plant-derived" oils that smart ol' Dr. Omar is alless talkin' 'bout.
Anyways, after breakfast, when the oil had cooled down some, I smeared it all over my clairnet, inside 'n out. Man it sure shined it up purty! Made music lovers out of my dawgs, too. Alless in the past, when I get out my clairnet, they head for parts unknown but this mornin' they all follered me outside to the room where Pappy lets me practice and sat at my feet jus' likken there chops and waggin' there tales. (The cute one in the middle looked jus' like the conductor of the Orchestra of the Hills waggin' that stick thingy of his.)
I am really impressed at how well this stuff works but I got to tell you guys y'all are gettin' ripped off. I mean $10 for a milliwhatsis? You can get a whole pound of bacon for less 'n that 'n at least half will cook down into oil. Anyways, this stuff worked so well on my clairnet I think I might just try smearin' it all over my jugs. Pappy says that will make him a real music lover, too!
Love y'all,
M
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2008-02-11 02:28
Dear M,
I wish you, your clarinet, and jug band well. There are still a few spots left at the Texas Music Educators Association Conference next week and you should come, exhibit, and show your new discovery to the crowds. We could all use a little comic relief and you obviously have that part down pat. You can write my sales copy any day !!!
L. Omar Henderson
www.doctorsprod.com
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-02-12 15:02
I've been using the same little bottle of Backun bore oil for well over five years now on his bells and barrels I use. I really, if ever, have oiled the bore of my horns. I believe my repairman does it sometimes though. The reason I oil the inside and outside of his bells and barrels is that he recommend it and gave me a few bottles at the time of purchase. I simply apply two- three drops on the bell and rub it around with an old silk swab and then rub the inside with the same swab, not adding any more oil. I own three bells and four barrels and have been using the same small bottle all this time. I do this several times a year, a bit more in the winter then in the summer. After all this time, it appears that the oil is still in fine condition and doing its job just fine. I have yet to open the other bottles. A little dab will do you! ESP
www.peabody.jhu.edu/457
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Author: sbrodt54
Date: 2008-02-12 23:02
I'm a big fan of oiling the bore of clarinets and oboes. Through the years I have experimented a lot with different oils and how they might help the wood to NOT crack when it expands or contracts from changes in heat or humidity. Larry Naylor did a number of experiments that I have read about and tried in my shop with very similar results, good, organic oil can help the wood a great deal. Any clarinet joint can crack at anytime no matter how old it is, I have fixed cracks in very well cared for clarinets that were 30 years old and pampered. It happens; the best I can hope for is to minimize the possibilities of a crack.
From his webpage I think Dr. Henderson is using a bore oil that is also organic and NOT petroleum based, just reading his website it seems that he has really done his homework. I have no idea what Backun is using but it could be similar. The oil I use here in the shop is a combination of olive oil, almond oil and a bit of liquid vitamin E for absorption that seems to work quite well. I'm also quite anxious to try the Dr.'s swab now that Buffet and Yamaha have discontinued their top of the line swabs.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2008-02-13 00:27
Several posts up there say not to use the almond oil if it is getting old, because it goes rancid.
Surely, if it goes rancid in the bottle, then it will surely go rancid even faster on the timber, where it is subject to all manner of possible accelerators.
I suggest Doctors Products oil, because the good Doctor has dealt with this issue, as best it can be dealt with, and attended to many other issues relating to bore oil. Search the site if you want all the technical stuff.
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Author: Gregory Smith ★2017
Date: 2008-02-13 01:42
I'm not compensated to endorse, etc...
I have now started the practice of using the doctor's newest version of the oil - Grenad-Oil® - to prepare all of my very well aged (35 - 40 year old wood) hardwood mouthpieces for delivery. The difference in the almond oil and other types of oils compared to the doctor's new oil is truly astonishing...and I'm generally not an "oiler".
With the doctor's new oil, the mouthpiece's beautiful grain is brought out to an almost marble-like finish and stays stable that way whereas with every other kind of oil, I've had to keep oiling to even get similar, although visually less satisfactory results.
This tells me that the doctor's new oil does penetrate better than anything that I've seen before and it stays in place. That kind of thing can only add stability and visual beauty to an already popular and successful mouthpiece style/type.
Kudos once again to Omar.
Gregory Smith
http://www.gregory-smith.com
Post Edited (2008-02-13 01:56)
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