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Author: blazian
Date: 2008-02-04 00:46
Neither, but if I really had to choose, it would be the aux. Eb.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2008-02-04 01:06
Since the F correction key is far less common, I would venture to guess that most clarinetists have never even tried it ...GBK
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Author: blazian
Date: 2008-02-04 01:12
Well I was thinking that since most have survived without it that it was not AS preferable as the aux. Eb.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-02-04 03:56
LH Ab/Eb is more useful.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: J. J.
Date: 2008-02-04 04:17
Aux Eb. The correction low F on my Tosca is fine, but there are so few places it can be used and the causes an even greater stretch of the fingers to play it. I find it moves my hand position even more than the Eb in the long run.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2008-02-04 20:40
The low "F" AND low "E" correction........thumb key of the Wurlitzer Oehler clarinets.
The "German tunning" makes so much sense. Instead of having a slightly sharp middle line "B" and flat low "Es" and "Fs", the Oehler is tunned perfectly for the clarion register and you add the thumb key (which opens the hole in the bell) for the two lowest notes which then ALSO become perfectly in tune.
Why don't Boehms do this? It's just too simple!!!!!
..........Paul Aviles
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-02-04 22:30
The German bore clarinets need it more due to the bore shape than the French ones do (in that the German bore has a much longer cylindrical section before it flares out at the lower end of the bottom joint), though that's not to say low F and especially the low E aren't flat on French bore clarinets.
The only other French clarinet I know of with the low F correction vent (as an option) was on some Selmer Recitals which was an automatic system, and remained open for the low register until the low E was played, or the speaker key was opened.
But I think the flat low E or F has a certain charm (if you're expecting it to be flat) - a couple of orchestral pieces that spring to mind being the 3rd movement of Dvorak's 8th with the fast lower register descending E minor arpeggio ending on low E, and in Rimsky-Korsakov's 'Cappricio Espagnol' after the cor anglais solo (and during the horn solo) the clarinet has a forte low E > F.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2008-02-05 10:34
"I would say neather of them both are for me just pain in the ass."
Too bad... You are missing out on good stuff.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2008-02-05 10:40
"Too bad... You are missing out on good stuff."
How does someone get a low F correction key? If it's the thing the same as on the Tosca then I didn't see any reason I would want one. I've had the left side Ab/Eb key for years and never wanted to use it. So not everyone is missing something by not using these keys.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2008-02-05 11:41
I guess what I am saying is that there is no clear reason "I know" for the bore to be as tapered as it is..........bore does not dictate the key system. If the bore continued in a cylidrical manner, closer to the point where it exits at the bell, then the clarion "C" and "B" would be IN TUNE and the correction key would make the bottom in tune as well.
Why do we insist on compromising intonation when the thumb key is a viable option?????
.........Paul Aviles
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2008-02-05 12:01
> Why do we insist on compromising intonation when the thumb key is a
> viable option?????
Probably for the same reason we don't improve a lot of other things: "it's good enough", and a slightly flat low E isn't what would drive me out of a concert (as an audience member, that is).
I'd rather have better shaped pinky touchpieces which fit my hands and not someone else's. You can lip up the odd note, but you can't stretch or bend your pinky beyond its mechanical end stop.
--
Ben
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