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 Edition of Saint-Saens Sonata?
Author: ChrisArcand 
Date:   2008-01-30 23:01

Should I get the edition by Durand or Masters? (Any huge differences?)

CA

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 Re: Edition of Saint-Saens Sonata?
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2008-01-30 23:40

I haven't seen the Masters edition, but I do own the Durand. The notes are accurate, but it has some serious problems. It was engraved in the standard notes sizes, but for the oversize paper that Durand used to use. The current edition has been shrunk to the conventional 9" x 12" size, making the notes uncomfortably small, and it's even worse if you photocopy it to 8-1/2" x 11" paper.

Unfortunately, copying is essential, because there are several impossible page turns, particularly in the last movement.

Durand used to use wood pulp paper with a very high acid level, which meant that it deteriorated, particularly if left open on a stand -- another reason it had to be copied. Their paper is a little better now, but it still has the yellowish wood pulp color, and I doubt that it will last well.

Gary van Cott will be able to tell you about the Masters edition, but offhand I would say that a non-Durand edition would be the one to own, at least if the editing and proofreading are good.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Edition of Saint-Saens Sonata?
Author: tdinap 
Date:   2008-01-31 01:22

I have the Chester Music edition, edited by Paul Harvey. I don't remember much offhand about the editing (it's at least not terrible, if I recall correctly), but it's very legible. The notes are a reasonable size and very clearly printed, and there are only one or two questionable page turns, and then only in the last movement.

Is the Chester edition considered substandard, or had you just not seen it?

Tom

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 Re: Edition of Saint-Saens Sonata?
Author: Brenda 2017
Date:   2008-01-31 01:48

If this is for an exam or audition do they require a specific edition? Sometimes that's what you need to consider. Otherwise, read on.

I'm just working up this piece now and I have the Durand Edition. There's no problem at all with the size of the print in this one so perhaps they've reprinted it recently. I went to a teacher to get some help with this and he didn't note any errors in notation, and it plays well with Smart Music.

All the page turns are between movements with the exception of the last movement. The only really uncomfortable page turn would be at the bottom of the first page of Movement 4, between measures 13 and 14 of Section 1, after the first of the decending chromatics and before the low G trill. This would undoubtedly be better if this first page of the 4th movement were copied to read beside the second and third pages.

The next page turn is better, at the 9th bar before Section 4. At least here there's almost two measures rest before playing the A on the 4th and last page of the movement.

Just a note about this piece: our Music Theory teacher taught us to look for patterns and areas where the key changes but the key change isn't written as such. So I find that in measure 9 of Section 1, I can very easily read the ascending scale if I think of it as simply a Db scale that just starts on low F and ends on high Bb. Thinking of it this way has meant that this is one of the easiest parts of the rapid notes.

Also in the 4th movement - Section 3 there are 4 restatements of the original 4th movement theme, but in different keys. At bar 30-31 (of section 3) this theme is in the key of A major, bars 32-33 is in the key of C major, bars 34-35 is in the key of A major again, and then at 36-37 we return to the original key of F major.

Then there are those 4 areas with chromatic scales - almost. So I just put a pencil mark where the chromatic ends and I have to start thinking again.
This is where having the scales under the fingers helps me to have several sections where I don't have to sweat the accidentals. This works for me, maybe not for everyone.



Post Edited (2008-02-01 02:57)

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 Re: Edition of Saint-Saens Sonata?
Author: ChrisArcand 
Date:   2008-01-31 03:04

Thanks, I actually did buy the Durand edition before the last post, I went to the music library and they had a Durand edition that I looked at and came up with the same conclusion; they must have updated it.

"I can very easily read the ascending scale if I think of it as simply a Db scale"

Yes, I also came up with that conclusion as well :-)

...CA

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 Re: Edition of Saint-Saens Sonata?
Author: OmarHo 
Date:   2008-01-31 03:55

Just for reference, I wouldn't recommend the Peters edition (which I know) because it has a few misprints. However, the paper quality is good, and the printing quality is good as well.

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