 The Clarinet BBoard
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Author: Chris Ondaatje
Date: 2000-08-13 04:08
I am very greatful to Bill and Mark Charette for the helpful information Re Antony(no 'h')Pay.This is a wonderful reasource for those of us who are obsessed about the instrument.Like Bill I sometimes feel that I should get a life. Maybe we nead to start a self help group for those of us who have become Clariholics.My addiction involves long (financially unrewarding but satisfing)hours of practice and buying large volumes of C.D.s and music.If you would like to join "Clariholics Anonymous" send me a note.
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Author: ken
Date: 2000-08-13 12:15
As far as addicitons go, I don't think swollen teeth marks inside your lip, a callused thumb, and sore finger joints is right up there with booze or drugs. It could be much worse, WE could be string players or pianists...those people get sucicidal at a Birthday party! <:-)
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Author: Tim
Date: 2000-08-13 13:51
ken wrote:
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It could be much worse, WE could be string players or pianists...those people get sucicidal at a Birthday party! <:-)
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But I am a pianist! And I play the Clarinet too! I think that I'd like to join. It's not that I'm getting addicted, but my Mum's accused me of compulsive obsessive behaviour. I seem to think about it constantly, it's the last thing I remember before falling to sleep, and the thing I first think about in the morning. It's not that I play too much, but the Clarinet is plaguing me, I can't stop thinking about what I'm doing wrong, how to improve. I just can't wait till september when I get my new teacher. If I haven't gone crazy first.
Tim
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Author: Bob Gardner
Date: 2000-08-13 14:02
No Thanks-----
I like where I am. i just want to work a little harder to get a little better.
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Author: William
Date: 2000-08-13 16:27
Like our "brother" alcoholics, I do not want to give up the "bottle" (cl) at this time and go through the withdrawal "DT" nightmare visions of Goodman, Combs, Hedges, Drucker, Daniels, Fountain, Bilk, Pyne, Smith, Goldentone, Bay, Kaspar, my old teachers, little finger studies, auditions, conductors, outdoor concerts, A instead of Bb error syndrom, and.....worst of all...Stolzman playing jazz. Leave me alone, I don't want to quit. I'm ok, really, I am!! Bye the way, can you spare me an extra ten-spot for a new "fifth" of reeds???
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2000-08-13 19:14
Vunderbahr ! William, you have well-expressed what most of us BBoarders are suffering [but enjoying] from. Don
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Author: Pam
Date: 2000-08-13 22:09
I would join, but I don't want to quit! I LIKE this addiction!
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Author: Willie
Date: 2000-08-14 05:10
After reading this thread, I think I'm beyond help. I've got nine clarinets around the house plus one behind the seat of my pickup truck. Got Artie Shaw in the CDrom right now. I'm a goner for sure.
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Author: Robin
Date: 2000-08-14 14:02
Yes! I am a fellow sufferer. But does my addiction to this BB - a million different views on reeds and mp's and Nicole Y's endless sagas with her blasted Band director - make my original addiction (the instrument itself) much more serious?
I really need help.
Please help.
Please
Please!
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Author: Bill
Date: 2000-08-14 14:31
My name is Bill, and I am an . . . well. I really think that players behave the way they do b/c clarinet isn't like piano (which I do play also), where technique in velocity (etc.) combined with adequate musicianship is the whole deal. Clarinet is too "imperfect," always requiring some more from the executant that goes way the hell beyond pressing keys fster and with more expression. Despite the Leblanc "Opus" and the Mazzeo clarinet and all that, still the instrument is basically terribly imperfect---and this attracts as well as frustrates.
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Author: ken
Date: 2000-08-14 19:47
That's hysterical.....LOLOLOL!!! I'd like to talk more but I have to go prcatice....<:-)
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Author: Henny
Date: 2000-08-14 20:40
Who wants to get cured from being a clariholic. It is the most wonderful addiction one can suffer from. Maybe financially painfull but healthy for the mind.
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Author: William
Date: 2000-08-15 04:13
I was actually able to shake the clariholic habit for a number of hectic years by taking the "double on saxophone" cure (one practice session at a time). But alas, I fell off the waggon and started clarineting again even more often than before. Guess there's no hope. It's agony-stick row for me forever, but don't worry, I'm happy as long as I am intoxicated in the sounds of music.
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Author: Tim
Date: 2000-08-15 12:22
I think the Clarinet, like any instrument, is kind of a double-edged sword. We take it up because we like it, but very soon it starts to consume us. It becomes our worst enemy - our nemesis, if you will, and we take it on, knowing that we never will beat it, because I don't think anyone can truly "master" an instrument. And yet, at the same time it is our best friend too. So should we try to stop our addiction? Well, that depends on how much it is interfering with your life, and how much you like the Clarinet in the first place. But if you love it enough, who needs a life?
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Author: Bill
Date: 2000-08-15 15:55
Tim,
To me, there are many who have apparently mastered clarinet. Every time I listen to Kell and Wright and Goodman I do feel it is possible. I'm in awe of the tedious craftsmanship of Brymer, who writes (or wrote---is he alive still?) about alternate fingerings and using set-ups that emphasize the differences between the notes (using this to the advantage of the music). --Bill.
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Author: Kontragirl
Date: 2000-08-15 17:10
I don't want to join, like others, I love my addiction. Yes, I will admit I'm addicted. Anyone that plays weird clarinets like me better admit it. Anyway, I have to go polish my clarinet.
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Author: Tim
Date: 2000-08-15 17:22
Bill,
I don't want to start a big argument or discussion about this, and I am not saying that you are wrong and trying to correct you, merely giving my viewpoint for consideration. I am of the school of thought that the performer cannot play a piece of music better than it is. To make an analogy, the perfomer is to the composer what the instrument is to the performer. I don't want to go off the point of this topic and intrude on the Clariholics, but feel free to give your opinions on this.
Tim
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Author: Bill
Date: 2000-08-15 17:46
What I meant was that the players I mentioned seem to have mastered the mechanics of playing the clarinet (which I consider very difficult---I consider the clarinet very difficult to play well). I agree that you can't "master" a piece of music in that sense. --Bill.
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