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 Superglue question
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2008-01-25 07:10

I knew that would get your attention. :)
I want to make some super thin, slow drying superglue to apply in thin layers with a paint brush. I have a bunch of 'thin' superglues, but they dry fast and can create a bumpy finish that I have to sand flat. Can I mix some thin superglue with something to make it thinner?
Thanks



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 Re: Superglue question
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2008-01-25 08:20

When it dries slowly, it's not superglue any more!

Question: what exactly do you want to do with the glue and the brush?

--
Ben

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2008-01-25 09:35

I want to 'paint' it on to the tone hole edge to seal the small fissures. I have always used thin superglue with success but I am just wanted to see if I can get different (better) results.

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2008-01-25 11:12

The Crazy Glue Gel dries a little slower. Maybe it can be manipulated quickly enough?



.............Paul Aviles



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 Re: Superglue question
Author: Tony Beck 
Date:   2008-01-25 14:22

I've had that same problem trying to fix chipped tone holes. The problem is that super glue outgasses quite a bit as it polymerizes (sets up) Petrified gas bubbles are what produce the rough surface. I have had much better luck using a slow set epoxy mixed with wood dust.

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: stevesklar 
Date:   2008-01-25 16:03

you could try some epoxies too. but those may dry too slowly and too thick for what you are looking for.

I recall a local hobby store had about 8+ varieties of superglue. you may want to peruse a hobby store for those different varieties - i've only used regular superglue and gel.

i'm surprised Chris P hasn't jumped in this thread :)

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Stephen Sklar
My YouTube Channel of Clarinet Information

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: EuGeneSee 
Date:   2008-01-25 16:23

Yeah, Chris P. is the "gluru" of super glue!

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: stevesklar 
Date:   2008-01-25 18:15

"gluru"

that is silly ..... and funny  :)

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2008-01-25 18:31

Notes from the supergluru: I've found thick and gel types seem to be more elastic than the thin types so they take ages to go off before you can do any work on them, but I've found using thin and fast acting superglue is really the best for the job, then you will have to finish it off afterwards. If you have access to tonehole bedplace cutters then you can tidy it all up with these.

"I want to make some super thin, slow drying superglue to apply in thin layers with a paint brush. I have a bunch of 'thin' superglues, but they dry fast and can create a bumpy finish that I have to sand flat."

Why not use lacquer or clear nail varnish as this is what I think would work better as you want to brush it on. But even with varnish, you will still have to do some sanding to get it even. There's no quick fix, you do have to put the time and patience in to get the best result.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: EuGeneSee 
Date:   2008-01-25 18:41

Steve, such is why puntification is considered the basest form of communication. Eu

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: sbrodt54 
Date:   2008-01-26 01:42

Mr. Gluru has hit the nail on the head. Please just use a tone hole file and in less than two seconds the top of the tone hole will be flat and ready for the new pad. I have had little luck with slow drying glues, even after they dry they get sticky, that only adds a clave click to your playing.
If you don't have the right tool just about any decent repair person will have a set, they get used a lot.

Scott Brodt

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: Pete 
Date:   2008-01-26 21:42

Actually, brushable superglues are available at many stores. I get mine at Wal*Mart. It has tons of uses in the shop. When you brush it on anything, it will cure pretty quickly, normally without bubbling or giving a rough finish. Usually looks like you put on lacquer, but it's much harder and tougher. It's also much less messy to use than the regular stuff.

Hope this meets your needs.

Pete

Emerson Musical Instrument Repair
North East Wisconsin Band Instrument Co.
ToneLure Tone Enhancement

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2008-01-27 01:19

Pete- I don't live in the US. Could you let me know the brand and description so that I can try to order it online? Thanks

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: susieray 
Date:   2008-01-27 01:48

Hans Moennig used shellac for this purpose, I believe.

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 Re: Superglue question
Author: Pete 
Date:   2008-01-27 15:59

There are a couple of brands available, but the stuff I have on my bench now is:
Instant Krazy Glue
Color Change Brush Formula

Cool stuff. Goes on purple and becomes clear when it cures.

If you need any more information, let me know.

Pete

Emerson Musical Instrument Repair
North East Wisconsin Band Instrument Co.
ToneLure Tone Enhancement

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