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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2008-01-14 03:55
I just bought (another) useless recorded accompaniment on CD. This one, for the Brahms Second Sonata.
What makes it useless is that there is no way to (re)start the accompaniment at a rehearsal number. Each movement runs straight through from start to finish with no breaks. Thus, if I want to work on the last few measures (and I do!), I must play through the entire movement --I get one shot at the ending every 8-minutes or so.
The Tre-Tempi recordings out of Lichtenstein have several "break points" in the orchestral accompaniment. These normally pass with no gap --unless one stops the CD player and ,manually cues a track.
Why don't producers of these recorded accompaniments insert useful breakpoints so that one can work more efficiently? As it is, I have a half dozen accompaniments that are not effective rehearsal aids --and I'm out of the market until I can find recordings with gapless breaks.
(Also, on this recording, the third movement is a pure dirge --way, way too slow).
Bob Phillips
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Author: pewd
Date: 2008-01-14 04:42
have you tried Smart Music?
it allows starting at any point , variable tempos, recording, metronome on or off ; a copy of the solo part playing with you on/off, etc.
a really wonderful tool.
it even follows you as you speed up or slow down, and adjusts the accompanyment speed accordingly
you could also put the last few measures into a loop - and keep working on them over and over.
www.smartmusic.com
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
Post Edited (2008-01-14 04:45)
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Author: jwiseman114
Date: 2008-01-14 12:52
Why not upload it to a computer and use a software program? They are numerous and depending on what you get/have, have a variety of functions that would solve your problems. I know at least one that is free online (audacity) and I'm sure that there are others.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2008-01-14 13:55
Or, you could just write down where in the accompaniment the various numbers are time wise compared to the recording - use the piano score to note where the rehearsal numbers are so that you can see what's going on.
Your CD player must have a forward and rewind button, try using it 
I used to make accompaniments professionally (now just for a few close friends) so know where you are coming from.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2008-01-14 19:58
If you have Nero software for burning CD's, it appears you can add indexes as follows:
1. Put the Brahms CD in your computer's CD drive
2. Open Nero, choose "audio" and "make audio CD"
3. Choose the computer's CD drive as input (on the far right side of the the Nero screen/right side of the "file browser," you should see a list of the tracks on the CD)
4. Drag each of the tracks you want on your new CD to the left side of the screen (Nero may take a short time to analyze each track)
5. Double click the first file in your new list (left-hand side of screen), an "Audio Track Properties" window should appear
6. Click on the middle tab "Indexes, Limits, Split" - an oscilloscope with a wave form of the file will appear
7. Click "zoom-in" until 10-second markers appear. You can continue to click zoom in and eventually have 1-second, 1/10-second, etc. markers.
8. Put the cursor where you want an index and click, this should create a vertical line at the cursor point - you can drag this to move it if it isn't where you want it. You can determine the points you want by listening to the CD and determining the timing to the points that you would like to access or you can simply put an index every minute, or 30-seconds, or 10-seconds, etc.
9. When the cursor is where you want it, click "new index."
10. When you have created all the indices you want, click "Split at Index Positions." A window will pop up to tell you how many split positions have been created.
11. Click OK on this small window to close it, then click OK on the audio track properties window. Another small window pops up to tell you how many tracks your original track will be split into. Click OK on this window.
12. You will go back to the main screen but the additional tracks will now be displayed.
13. Repeat this process for each movement of the Sonata.
14. When you are finished, double-click the SECOND TRACK in the list. The "audio track properties" window appears again. Change the pause to "0 seconds." Set all the pauses within a movement to 0 seconds. Leave the beginning pause at 2 seconds. Set the pauses between movements to whatever length you want.
15. Put a blank CD in your CD drive. Click "burn." For each tab in the burn window, make sure the settings are where you want them and burn the new CD.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2008-01-14 20:23
Jack,
cool. I think that would be a candidate for the "Keepers" section. Very useful.
BTW, this also works with Nero OEM (aka Nero Express, ie the stripped-down version that often comes with new CD-RW drives).
--
Ben
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Author: MaggieMay
Date: 2008-01-15 18:10
This is probably a stupid suggestion, but you could copy the CD onto an audio cassette (anyone remember what they are??), then you can stop and start it whereever you like. (I'm an EFL teacher, and I do this all the time for students to repeat bits of dialogue etc. ) Sounds like going back to the dark ages I know... I even copy DVDs onto video cassettes (so much easier to stop and start where you want....)
Best regards
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