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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-01-14 18:29
Looks like a Yamaha copy from the picture.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2008-01-14 20:30
Pictures can be misleading.
The review on the Eb Bass says something about "chinese instruments". Not that there's anything inherently wrong with that, though, but that would exclude Yamaha, no?
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Ben
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-01-14 21:15
I have seen some Chinese catalogues with photos shamelessly lifted straight from Yamaha's catalogues.
Perhaps this is bass is from the same company that made the older Arioso/Lyrique low C bass.
I wonder how bendy the keywork is?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2008-01-15 12:25)
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Author: stevensfo
Date: 2008-01-14 21:16
I bought the John Packer oboe about 2 years ago:
http://www.johnpacker.co.uk/instruments/101577.htm
It has a good review. I admit that it 'can' sound very nice. I thought it would be a replacement for my second hand Fox Renard with no left hand F. I'd been playing around with oboe for a while and wanted to start taking it a bit more seriously.
How can I say this? Today I'm still using the old Fox. The chinese -made Packer goes out of adjustment every time I use it. The keys and screws are poor quality. The bore is very rough. Water seems to accumulate in the keys very easily. Notes change in pitch so much I think it could play itself.
I'm sure the reviewer was being honest. When set up correctly, it sounds great. But I really don't want to have to do this every time I play it.
I spend a lot of time on the British ABRSM forum and so far, two teachers have said that their schools have had big problems with these oboes. I don't think it can go on much longer. The company has a very good reputation and I'd assume they can't afford to sell rubbish. We'll see.
I still plan to buy a better oboe, but my conscience really won't allow me to sell this pile of junk to anyone.
I honestly don't think their own brand bass clarinet will be any different, but I'd be very happy if it were. I'd love a bass!
Anyone volunteer to buy one and give a review after a few months?
Steve
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2008-01-14 23:01
Tom Ridenour is currently marketing a new Lyrique Low C Bass for around $3125, which isn't exactly cheap, but is still a pretty darned good value, if it lives up to the other Lyrique instruments' reputations. You can find it at http://ridenourclarinetproducts.com/lowcbasspage.html
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
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Author: graham
Date: 2008-01-15 06:48
If it looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true.......
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2008-01-15 18:19
If I understand the situation correctly, all those bargain-basement low-C bass clarinets, whether they're branded by Ridenour, or WW & BW, or whatever, appear to be copies of the Yamaha design because, in fact, that is what they are! I may be wrong, but I believe that all these instruments, regardless of label/distributor, are inexpensive Chinese-made copies of the Yamaha low-C bass clarinet; analogous to the cheap Chinese-made saxophones flooding the market which are copies of either the Selmer Super Action 80, or of the professional Yamaha sax.
If anyone has any hard evidence to the contrary, I would love to hear it! Please note that I have attempted to avoid making any value judgements here --- I'm just discussing design and manufacturing origin, not quality.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-01-15 21:34
"I'm just discussing design and manufacturing origin, not quality."
Ditto.
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1998 - 2010
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