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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2008-01-06 19:22
I've used expertvillage clips before, but never saw this one! Well, it's a nice intro for beginners who'd like to know a little about the instrument as a whole. Not what I hope I sound like, but then again I'm no Bonade myself.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Bill
Date: 2008-01-06 20:13
Almost had a heart attack when I saw the YouTube link because I thought it might be me!!!!!!
Hilarious. Pathetic. Love what someone wrote "1. That's not the range of the clarinet. 2. You suck. 3. Kill yourself."
LOL. Actually, COL.
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
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Author: davidsampson
Date: 2008-01-06 20:50
http://www.expertvillage.com/videos/clarinet-for-beginners-types.htm
Watch the Types of Clarinet: Clarinet Family video. The "contrabass clarinet". Has anyone ever heard of this guy?
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2008-01-06 20:51
Music, and the clarinet's function in it, is oh-so-clear now. When he went to the third style I was dreading some Klezmer impression.
He alludes to changes in sound without creating any. Kind of like the Kevin Costner of the clarinet world.
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2008-01-06 21:21
Alex,
He's "waggle" tonguing. Tip of the tongue attacking first below then above (repeat) at the tip of the reed.
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2008-01-06 21:56
...hold on. Which one was classical?
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2008-01-06 22:11
THat was really pathetic. My daughter has first and second year students who sound as good as that clown!
I liked the comment, "I didn't know George Kostanza played the clarinet!" ![[happy]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley12.gif)
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2008-01-07 00:30
How they can call this site "ExpertVillage" is beyond me. They should rename it "Village Idiots" ![[tongue]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie6.gif)
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2008-01-07 01:16
Some of the videos i've seen were good. On other topics (not clarinet). But they could definitely use some better ones.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: swkeess
Date: 2008-01-07 01:40
GBK,
Thanks for the link - I loved the video on "Boar's Oil"! Now I know that I just have to be careful not to store my clarinets in a moldy area or in the car for long periods of time (who would have thought!). The clarinet lesson was also very interesting. I never knew that vibrato was an integral part of Dixie Land, classical, and marching music!
Susan Keess
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2008-01-07 04:10
You think that's hilarious...the same outfit (Expert Village) has a clip on how to shave with a straight razor!! Hopefully without vibrato!
Clarinet Redux
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Author: BobD
Date: 2008-01-07 11:50
YES, thanks GBK for the link....there's more!
Bob Draznik
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Author: clarinets1
Date: 2008-01-07 19:46
His sound wasn't so bad, but his theory and "styles" are seriously misguided.
For the "classical" i was expecting the Mozart concerto or something...his example didn't register with me at all...
I didn't realize that "marching band" was a style...
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Author: Liam Murphy
Date: 2008-01-08 00:05
Back when I was learning to juggle, I checked out the juggling videos magnaminously supplied by the expert village - not the most helpful source out there!
Better than nothing, I suppose though.
That's the chore of internet-learning: sifting for gold through all the mud!
I feel better now.
Liam
Post Edited (2022-05-27 09:26)
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2008-01-08 02:35
Check out Mitch's credentials....he's on a PBS video with Yo Yo Ma and Joshua Redman! Maybe there's more to this guy than what we think.
Freelance woodwind performer
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Author: blazian
Date: 2008-01-08 02:37
Why WOULD anyone skip altissimo D for an E?
(that was my post on Youtube btw)
It's funny that on his accessory video his lyre fits on his barrel. He must have to take his glasses off to play or something
- Martin
Post Edited (2008-01-08 02:54)
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Author: John O'Janpa
Date: 2008-01-08 03:35
Wonder how many boars had to be squeezed, to get the boar oil for Yoyo's cello?
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Author: Katelyn
Date: 2008-01-08 06:00
Oh my...can someone blacklist this guy for clarinet heresy?
Expert village also has some lovely videos on how to meet women that are about the same caliber of this one.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2008-01-08 11:49
> Expert village also has some lovely videos on how to meet women that are
> about the same caliber of this one.
I do not wish to meet women that are the same caliber as him.
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Ben
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Author: blazian
Date: 2008-01-08 21:40
It's a Brilhart Ebolin(e?) isn't it? Not very expensive.
I think somebody from here should make a superior video to his and send it to ExpertVillage just to blow him out of the water and prevent any misconceived ideas and playing deficiencies.
I would do it but it would just be to embarrassing that a HS sophomore could play better than him in so many ways... Plus I can't give examples of styles very well!
- Martin
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Author: davidsampson
Date: 2008-01-08 22:37
Better yet, do them exactly like his videos, down to the word, except for corrections on his mistakes. Oh, and choose better style examples. Be sure to throw in snide comments about things he is doing wrong, without specifically naming him. "Vibrato, when used out of context, demonstrates poor understanding of music, and the clarinet."
Post Edited (2008-01-08 22:43)
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Author: Alexis
Date: 2008-01-09 00:01
I love the marching band style
the videos are hilariously incoherent!
I like how he describes tonguing in the warm up techniques
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2008-01-09 00:16
Is this a joke?!?!?
Expertise: Proficient on multiple instruments, Mitch Kaplan has performed and taught music for TWO DECADES.
"You don't' want to put oil on a plastic one because it might slip out of your hands.... and you don't want that to happen. (attempts to laugh at his own joke)
"it is important to realize where you keep your instrument
if your instrument is in a cold environment, your pads could FREEZE AND FALL OFF"
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2008-01-09 00:22
http://www.expertvillage.com/videos/clarinet-for-beginners-accessories.htm
I like his description of the music stand accessory. it's just a riot! you can almost imagine him saying: use this top metal thingy and put it in the other thingy. and that's how you do it.
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2008-01-10 04:26
C2thew- "Is this a joke?!?!?
... it is important to realize where you keep your instrument
if your instrument is in a cold environment, your pads could FREEZE AND FALL OFF"
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Actually, the shillac (or other heat adhesive) can shatter from a sudden drop in temerature and the pads CAN fall out. It can be worse on sax, but it can happen on clarinet too. It can be prevented if the pad cup is textured before the shillac is put into the cup.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2008-01-10 05:00
Ok . . . but who's gonna be the one to put quality videos up on there so that there's a better reference? I'm not putting MYSELF up for ridicule (voluntarily that is . . . )!!!!
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: BobD
Date: 2008-01-10 20:55
"Is this a joke?!?!?" Not anymore so than some stuff we read and hear that is promulgated as truth. (I couldn't find the straight razor shaving one and hesitate to try my new razor without a few lessons:)
Bob Draznik
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Author: MichaelR
Date: 2008-01-10 21:23
Hank Lehrer wrote:
> There are some very high quality instructional videos on You
> Tube for flute by Nina Perlove. Dr. Perlove is an excellent
> player and a very fine teacher. Check one of these out at
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ms9tsWmhyU
Her "Real Flute" (real musicians make mistakes, live with it) and "Identify the Flute" (paraphrase) posts are special gems.
--
Michael of Portland, OR
Be Appropriate and Follow Your Curiosity
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2008-01-10 22:04
Hi MichaelR,
Yes, real gems. Perlove is such a wonderful extemporaneous speaker and a marvelous player. What an engaging personality.
Having never been quite satisfied with my flute vibrato, I am practicing the vibrato exercise she demonstrates that she learned from her teacher (it's like getting masterclass from Kincaid). I have learned much and have my flute on a peg close by . I practice the exercise often.
Now if someone would do the same type thing for clarinet (other than Mitch Kaplan).
HRL
PS Check out the flute playing by some of the teenagers. Wow.
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Author: LN_cello
Date: 2008-01-14 00:46
JessKateDD wrote:
> On the other hand - this harmonica guy is amazing -
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfjZEwPqqsQ
=========================
Thanks for the last link!
Sure that is amazing harp playing! By none less than Paco Shipp!
Also check out his other vid's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD5anBwCDqc
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHbedt8_ljs&feature=related
This goes way beyond instrument technique, it is about music ...
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2008-01-14 07:17
HAHA "Boar's Oil" is my favorite!
The "FREE Chromatic Scales" one is not too far behind.
http://www.expertvillage.com/videos/clarinet-for-beginners-scales-chromatic.htm
Quality Entertainment!
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2008-01-14 07:24
Correction. It WAS my favorite until I saw the one about the metronome.
http://www.expertvillage.com/videos/clarinet-for-beginners-metronome.htm
Here he talks about the silent flashing light, and how's it's good for practicing at night without driving the wife crazy. You'd think that the clarinet playing itself would be louder and more annoying than any sound the metronome emits, wouldn't you!?
Also, just how does a metronome "calibrate your tone"?
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Author: CrystalClear7
Date: 2008-02-10 02:02
I SERIOUSLY hope there were no young kids hoping to learn to play clarinet from this guy. Cause if so, all of their hopes and dreams will be crushed. This video could scar them for life!!!! LOL
What you should do is go to youtube and type in "clarinet flight of the bumblebee" and click on the first video. This guy is AMAZING!!!!!
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2008-02-10 04:45
Or try googling:
Bliss Flight of the Bumblebee
and hear it REALLY fast.
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: blazian
Date: 2008-12-17 22:07
Is anyone still up to make a better series of videos? The clarinet world could use some GOOD instructional videos. I can't even recommend any videos to my friends who need to work on certain areas of their playing and technique. They don't really like learning themselves from books and the lesson teacher that comes to the school isn't so great. A free video online would be an easy way (for them) to learn. I would make the video, but I play more bass clarinet than clarinet nowadays and I may sound as bad as this Mitch guy in some people's opinions.
- Martin
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Author: GBK
Date: 2008-12-17 22:10
If you don't mind some of Tom Ridenour's home-spun attempts at humor, his You Tube videos offer a good deal of information.
...GBK
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-12-18 03:01
I got to get me one of them there reeds that he's using.
If this is for real, may God help us serious teachers. ESP
(I'm not even going to put my usual signature, I need a drink after that)
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Author: Sambo 933
Date: 2008-12-18 23:08
"expert village"
seriously?
But I guess it's not the worst clarinet video I've seen on you tube.
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Author: clarinetcase
Date: 2008-12-19 22:15
For some reason this video reminds me of Pat Boone's No More Mr. Nice Guy endeavor.
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Author: Malcolm Martland
Date: 2008-12-28 16:56
Excruciating - but I am fascinated to know how you could get a lower note than low E on a regular clarinet by using different fingerings! He did say that didn't he - I can't bear to watch it again?
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Author: Claire Annette
Date: 2009-01-11 23:47
I could NOT watch it to the end.
He closes his throat as opposed to using his tongue to stop his sound. Well...then again...I'm all for ANY technique that would stop his sound!
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Author: allencole
Date: 2009-01-12 00:56
WOW! I can't believe how many videos the same guy has.
Follow this link to see another instructor with 15 years experience do all the things that i have my students watch videos to PREVENT:
My list of violations is as follows:
1 - Handles upper joint with right hand rather than left
2 - Makes sure that there will be a swordfight between the two components of the bridge key.
3 - presses on barrel and mouthpiece with almost no twisting
See if you see others...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRcl0skINVU
I could almost live with this if she at least showed something of value, but the whole video is about proper assembly. I hope it wasn't done as a project for her masters...
Allen Cole
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2009-01-12 03:15
Her hand position is horrible. Fingers at almost 45 degrees to the instrument, though that could just be because she's holding it up to the camera. Not a good thing to go along with a demonstration of proper hand position, in any case.
Also, the suggestion to keep blowing harder if you're not getting a sound isn't likely to get you far. Much more likely to be a result of poor assembly or bum reed.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: allencole
Date: 2009-01-12 04:01
On second look, I was also pretty disappointed with how little of mpc/reed/ligature setup, and embouchure was dealt with. If I were making a beginner video, I would want to clearly show the following:
1 - That the reed needs to be wet ALL THE WAY down its flat surface, where the brand name appears. So many kids wet half the reed and still have a bone-dry seal with the mouthpiece table.
2 - That the reed needs to be aligned almost to the very end of the mouthpiece. Many put the reed too low, and the "Standard of Excellence" band books have a drawing that would reinforce this mistake. (probably from using a chisel-tip pen)
3 - That the ligature needs to be below the cutaway of the reed...and on a part of the mouthpiece that is actually round.
This is critical stuff, and would only take a couple of seconds to zoom in on. And I can't believe that there was no discussion of embouchure other than just putting the horn in her mouth. What good does it do to talk about warm vs. cold air, and tongue position when you don't even show them how to set up your lips and facial muscles?
Okay. I'm done ranting. My own fault for expecting standards on the internet.
Allen Cole
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Author: HBO
Date: 2009-01-12 09:26
Marching band style? What dang style? All you do on a field is just to blow as hard as possible xD
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Author: huff n' puff
Date: 2009-01-13 10:56
Hi,
I haven't seen the one about metronomes controling tone, and I don't think I could bear to search for it........ I'll take your word.
I was amazed to find that the one where he advises beginners to pull out the joints to sharpen the instrument is still there.
It would be hard to better his advice, but here goes...........
Suggestion 1......... A minim in the Chalumeau register is equal to two tied semitones in the Clarion register.
Suggestion 2......... Leather pads will stop your decibels from squeaking.
Would anyone care to extend this list?.......... H&P.
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Author: grenadilla428
Date: 2009-01-14 22:21
On the topic of assembling the instrument, I personally don't like the idea of my beginners assembling the instrument with the case on their lap. I could just see a tiny 5th grader putting together the first two pieces, unwittingly shifting his weight on the chair, and - oops! everything falls to the floor. A bent trill key, and his first week of playing clarinet is not so fun anymore.
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Author: Philcoman
Date: 2009-01-16 14:02
Just want to point out that ExpertVillage videos have helped me hang dry wall and irrigate my garden just fine, so it's not a totally useless site. I'm just glad I didn't go to them to learn how to play a clarinet!
So, who's volunteering to post better instructional videos on ExpertVillage?
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Author: huff n' puff
Date: 2009-01-22 11:30
Hi, Philcoman...... How did you manage to resist a comment about "garden paths"........ I reckon I could lead students up a few, but I am NOT volunteering................... H&P. (what's the money like?)
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-01-22 12:21
Philcoman wrote:
>So, who's volunteering to post better instructional videos on ExpertVillage?
Actually, Tom Ridenour has some instructional info, on some aspects of playing, as well as on maintenence. They're on Youtube.
Jeff
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