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Author: Marc E.DuBois
Date: 2000-08-08 02:25
I'm currently refurbishing a Buffet I picked up at a garage sale and I've been unable to ID it. Its serial number is A1526. Any ideas or a website to go to to check? Please e-mail me if possible as I don't "surf" all that much, but do receive e-mails regularly! Thanks.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-08-08 12:13
Head over to the "Equipment" section here on Sneezy to get the date of manufacture.
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Author: Marc E. DuBois
Date: 2000-08-08 16:59
I've already checked this site. The last "A" serial number listed is A999 in 1887. Mine is A1526 and its not listed on this website. Any other suggestions?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-08-08 21:01
That's the official Buffet number listing. Are you sure that the "A" is part of the serial number and not the key of the clarinet?
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Author: Dee
Date: 2000-08-08 22:13
Are you sure that it is a Buffet. i.e. Does it say Buffet on it? I saw a listing on eBay where the seller had a clarinet that they had been told was a Buffet but was not. This was evident from the fact that the serial number did not fit any of the Buffet patterns and the instrument itself had no inscriptions of any kind other than the serial number.
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Author: Marc E.DuBois
Date: 2000-08-09 02:12
OK - As for the serial number - it reads just as I said - A1526 stamped in the clarinet in the normal upper and lower joints. I do believe it is part of the actual serial number. Why else would it be part of the serial number?
As for it being a buffet - I have ab R-13 and an E-11 at home as well - both from the early 90's. I know what they look like. This particular clarinet is clearly marked Evette& Schaeffer Paris France Modele Buffet-Crampon - Serial number A1526
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2000-08-09 07:49
Buffet doesn't release lists of the Evette & Shaeffer serial numbers for the master model, which that probably is, or, I believe, the other Evettes. E-mail them, however at the boosey & hawkes site, (link found on this site) and they will likely respond with the year of manufacture. They did for me.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-08-09 10:52
Marc E.DuBois wrote:
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This particular clarinet is clearly marked Evette& Schaeffer Paris France Modele Buffet-Crampon - Serial number A1526
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It's clearly an Evette & Schaeffer, not a Buffet. Buffet distributed them for a while - that's a very common occurance among instrument manufacturers. The Buffet serial numbers will not apply. True "Buffet" clarinets will only have the Buffet name on them.
It's not a Master model, as Tobin suggested, or it would be marked Master on it.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2000-08-23 16:49
Until around 1982, when they adopted the designation E13, Evette & Schaeffer was Buffet's designation for their high-end intermediate model. These instruments were indeed made by Buffet at their main factory. (Evette & Schaeffer purchased Buffet Crampone & Cie. early in the 1900's.) I don't know exactly when the Evette & Schaeffer model was first introduced but my guess is the 20's or 30's. The A prefix was, as far as I have been able to determine, used on the earliest models. The last series for the E&S was the K series, which started in the 50's and ran until the E13 designation was substituted. Dates for this series do appear on the Boosey site under "soprano" clarinets. There may have been one or two intervening series but my memory fails me here. I have never seen an E&S "Master Model" without a K prefix to its serial number and the designation "Master Model" on the instrument. (Also, I have never seen an Evette Master Model without a D prefix, but that's another story.)
I happen to have E&S A1524, clearly a Bb clarinet. I believe it dates from the 1930's. I base this estimate on the fact it does not have a wrap-around register key, and that the throat G# key has no adjusting screw, identical (along with the bridge mechanism) to the keywork on a pair of 1936 professional Buffets that a friend of mine owns.
The Buffet factory has remarkable records. If they are able to date your instrument, I will be interested to hear what they have to say.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2000-08-24 16:41
Correction: K-series E&S serial numbers are found at the Boosey site under Buffet "Student" model clarinets, not "Soprano" as I originally wrote. Sorry for the misinfo.
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