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Author: AmandaSmith107
Date: 2007-12-22 15:44
Finally out of marching season, it's my tone is now in rehab. I've increased my long tone studies each day, but my lesson teacher has told me in the past that I need a concept of tone and should listen to other clarinetists. I should have asked her this a long time ago, but didn't. Which clarinetists and recordings do you suggest for me to listen to? I know that in the end, I'll have to choose the tones I like the best, but I need somewhere to start.
Thankss!
Amanda
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2007-12-22 16:45
You will hear a ton of varying suggestions (I don't actually like Carbonare's sound much) - go onto a site like Amazon, or Itunes and click on the recordings of Clarinetists there. Just do a search on Clarinet or Clarinetist or Clarinet Sonata, Clarinet Concerto, etc.
Free and easy.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-12-22 19:04
> Free and easy.
Sure, but all our fun of wearing asbestos underwear or flaming others for their choice is gone. ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
Anyhow - whatever "sound" you choose, be sure to record and listen to yourself. While you have the beak in the mouth, you might believe you sound like, say, Reto Bieri. If you hear yourself recorded, you sound like Squidward. Or the other way round...
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Ben
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2007-12-22 19:43
I don't want his sound for me, but I enjoy listening to Jon Manasse.
Harold Wright comes to mind.
Robert Marcellus should be recommended.
Good luck!
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: NorbertTheParrot
Date: 2007-12-22 22:06
It would be interesting to have a short list of players/recordings with widely different sound.
Marcellus
de Peyer
Leister
.....your suggestions please.
A lot more rewarding, I suggest, than listening to a series of American players who, in Brymer's words "all seem to make the same pleasant and forthright sound by the same method."
I have to agree with David Blumberg - I don't like Carbonare's sound much either. But that's scarcely the point.
I also have to disagree with him - unless your PC has an extraordinarily good soundcard and speakers, clicking on links in Amazon is a bad way of judging sound quality. Better beg, steal or borrow the CDs.
Post Edited (2007-12-22 22:06)
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2007-12-22 22:39
You should use your own judgement and try not to "copy" anyones sound. If your doing good long note exercises you should quickly get a sense of your own voice.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Alexis
Date: 2007-12-22 22:44
Hi David
Just out of curiosity...what don't you like about Carbonare's sound?
Alex
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Author: Ed
Date: 2007-12-23 03:26
There are often suggestions to not copy others sounds. I remember a great quote from Miles Davis in a documentary about 20 years ago where he said, "Sometimes it takes a long time to sound like yourself." i wouldn't be afraid to listen to a lot of good players and try to emulate all of the great things you hear in each. Take a bit of each and make it your own.
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2007-12-23 09:08
There are many amazing recordings out there worthy of listening here are a few of my favorites:
Paul Meyer - 20th Century Music For Unaccompanied Clarinet
Harold Wright - Brahms Sonatas
Alessandro Carbonare - Mozart and Brahms Quintet
Antony Pay - Mozart Clarinet Conerto
Robert Marcellus - Mozart Clarinet Concerto
Richard Stoltzman - Brahms, Beethoven, Mozart : Trios for Piano, Clarinet, Cello
Martin Frost - Nielsen, Aho clarinet concertos
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Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-12-23 09:30
Some more for the melting pot - Andrew Marriner, Michael Collins, Sabine Meyer, Julian Bliss, Gino Cioffi ...
Find an aspect of each and every player YOU like and incorporate your approximation of that particular aspect into your OWN playing - it could be anything from the way they play a phrase, the way they sound on a particular note, the way they articulate or even the way they breathe.
Always be inspired by what you hear, and always keep looking for inspiration from anywhere, you can find inspiration from various sources other than focussing solely on clarinettists (though it's always a good place to start).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: OmarHo
Date: 2007-12-23 14:42
When I first played back a recording of myself in grade 6 I was really shocked because I had always heard myself in my head playing a lot better than what I had heard!
So if you have not already done that, I also suggest that you do that. It doesn't even have to be a great recorder, because even with the worst you should be able to tell what your tone is like.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2007-12-23 14:44
"It doesn't even have to be a great recorder, because even with the worst you should be able to tell what your tone is like."
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If the recorder isn't good (microphone accurate) than your sound won't be good - nobody's sound will be good with bad equipment.
Though it seems like these days computers do a pretty good job with a 1/2 decent mic.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: MichaelR
Date: 2007-12-23 17:15
AmandaSmith107 wrote:
> I know that in the end, I'll have to choose the tones I like
> the best, but I need somewhere to start.
Ed commented:
> I wouldn't be afraid to listen to a lot of good players and try to emulate
> all of the great things you hear in each. Take a bit of each and make it
> your own.
Sean Osborn has some pieces online:
http://www.osbornmusic.com/recordings.html
His Character Pieces (with score):
http://www.osbornmusic.com/charpieces.html
display an amazing range of sounds.
If you like those samples of his tone he has two CDs out. One is of the 32 Rose Etudes which I've found to be a very good listen.
In general - I suggest getting your ears exposed to a wide variety of solo exposed playing. The contrasts in the variety will help you center in on good tone. Having, as Ed suggests, a wide range of influences will help you find your tone.
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Michael of Portland, OR
Be Appropriate and Follow Your Curiosity
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-12-24 09:11
David Schiffrin doing the Brahms 5tet.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-12-24 12:17
Can your instructor get a decent sound using your setup?
Bob Draznik
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2007-12-24 13:06
I agree with a lot above (and disagree with some), but it's all an opinion. I'd like to throw in Paquito D'Rivera into the mix. He's a jazz clarinetist, but I have a little classical recordings of his and love his sound no matter WHAT he's playing.
Alexi
PS - of course you'll never sound exactly like any of these people, but somwhere along the way you'll come up with 'your' sound and you'll like it and learn to make it pretty much no matter what the mouthpiece
US Army Japan Band
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Author: AmandaSmith107
Date: 2007-12-25 22:14
I'm sure my teacher could...I play a Leblanc Concerto with a Vandoren M13 mp. I really just slacked during marching season and need to touch up my tone.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Amanda
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Author: Cass Tech
Date: 2007-12-26 14:32
As an amateur who has done no research on clarinet sound, I am wondering whether those of you with more experience can answer the following question. How much can you change your sound without changing equipment (i.e. mouthpiece, type of clarinet, etc.)? You can certainly improve whatever sound you're making (e.g. better embouchure, diaphragmatic support, etc.). You can embelish it with vibrato. And a certain dimension is your own physique (oral cavity, etc.). But if you want to sound like Leister you need a German clarinet (and mouthpiece?). If you want to sound like Brymer, you need a British-type clarinet (Boosey Hawkes, etc.). If you want to sound like Schifrin you need a French-type clarinet (Buffet, Selmer, LeBlanc, etc.), and a perhaps a certain mouthpiece (last I heard he was using Bakun-Morales).
If I'm wrong about this, please correct me.
Cass Tech (aka leatherlip)
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