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 Why do manufacturers give out so much key oil?
Author: C2thew 
Date:   2007-12-19 06:55

honestly, the last time i've really used key oil, I only used about 5-10 drops and indirectly applying them as well.

with all the extra oil they give...
I'm thinking of putting some on my rollerblades.... or my skateboard....

Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau

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 Re: Why do manufacturers give out so much key oil?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2007-12-19 08:12

Do they? I've only seen small bottles of key oil supplied with Yamaha instruments.

I think it's a bad idea to supply oil of any kind as the chances are it either won't be used at all, or if it is used, then too much oil is used.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Why do manufacturers give out so much key oil?
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2007-12-19 21:06

What is too much? Bill Brannen always recommend a monthly oiling of the keys and a yearly tear-down and oiling. Non-lubricated surfaces will wear much quicker........even your ligatures.


..............Paul Aviles



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 Re: Why do manufacturers give out so much key oil?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2007-12-19 21:33

Too much is when too much oil is applied carelessly to the keys while still in position and runs down the pillars or gets onto pads and corks rather than directly to the steels and the insides of key barrels themselves (having removed the keys first, then the screw threads dipped in oil and passed through the key barrels, the keys mounted on point screws have the ends filled with oil, then assembled and any excess oil that oozes out is wiped off before allowed to run down the pillars).

It's easy enough for anyone (with the aptitude) to remove each of the rod screws and dip the threads in oil and put them back as they go, and making sure they catch any oil that oozes out.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Why do manufacturers give out so much key oil?
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2007-12-20 12:49

Dear Chris,

That's a VERY good point. Oiling a key that has a rod, without removing the rod, is NOT oiling the key. The oil will not move throughout the length of the rod through capillary action. Surface tension itself that will prevent that from happening.


...........Paul Aviles



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 Re: Why do manufacturers give out so much key oil?
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2007-12-20 13:01

Paul Aviles wrote:

> Surface tension itself that will prevent that from happening.

Dear Paul:
Surface tension is the cause of capillary action.

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 Re: Why do manufacturers give out so much key oil?
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2007-12-20 13:57

Dear Mark,

Rather than repeat myself I used the roughly synonymous "surface tension" moniker, but YES, that's exactly what I'm saying.

When we short cut the process by just placing the drop of oil on the crevice between post and key, the oil will form a "bridge" of oil that will block further oil from entering the rod/key area.


...........Paul Aviles



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